Well, you can't fix stupid...

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  1. schissler

    schissler Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

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    Tried saving a guy from a ticket, but...

    Turned onto a road that has a school zone (30km/h), Noticed the Undercover cop on the left in the parking lot across from the school before I hit the 30 zone. Did my 30-35 through the whole area while he was tagging me from the rear. No problem.

    The school zone ends and there is a stop sign at an intersection. A van coming the opposite direction (towards the cop and school zone) comes off the stop sign and I can tell he is accelerating into the 30 faster than he should.

    I stick my arm out the window and signal him to slow down for the impending trap he is driving into, while receiving a dumb look on his dumb face. Well, he didn't slow down and I watched my RVM, cop was targeting him the whole way. Pulled out and got him.

    Sorry buddy!
     
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    He probably thought you were one of those pearl-clutching soccer mom types telling him to slow down around their snowflakes. Is flashing your lights on and off to warn of cops ahead unheard-of in your area or illegal?
     
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    In Utah nobody does the flashing lights thing. They just don’t do it or know what it is. I do since I grew up out east and it was common road culture there to do that. Definitely something I miss about the Eastern part of the US.


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    I flash my lights and it seems there is only about a 25% reaction rate from brake lights in my RVM. People just don't seem to do it anymore. I learned from my parents a long time ago, but I think things like this just get lost over generations.
     
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    Hah, Yeah, I don't doubt that at all. Ah, well lesson learned the hard way for him I guess!

    Not sure on the legality of flashing lights, I do it anytime I see a trap and people are generally clueless to it. Rarely see anyone even notice, except sometimes I'll get a trucker that flashes back or waves.
     
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    Check your state code. Utah considers it “aggressive driving”. I believe they wrote it to stop people from flashing someone repeatedly who cuts them off, but since it’s written so loosely, even flashing your lights to warn of a police officer would fall under it too. Dumb, I know... But better to know ahead of time.



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    Biohazardous Finding the loopholes Advanced User Premium Member

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    I have gotten the deer in the headlights look when I've given other bikers a helmet tap. Just trying to boost my karma pool.
     
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    Yep I’ve flashed lights, waved arm out the window, hit brake lights 20x, no one seems to get it.
     
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    - These dopes don't notice it because they aren't paying attention, they are looking at their phones ! If there was an App called " Flash your lights if you see a speed trap" they might get a clue.

    - I imagine that would be a hard one to enforce. I on occasion accidently flash my lights when I'm being too aggressive with the turn signal.
     
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    Florida cops tried ticketing people for interfering whith police so it is explicitly legal to flash. Most people ignore anyway.
     
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    Or at least you can safely say that in Florida they can't cite you for interfering with police simply by flashing your car lights. Hopefully they don't try citing it under some other law.
     
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    Used a fair amount in Ohio...go figure...we have to help each other survive this mess.
     
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    When people are behind me and I get a strong Ka hit ahead, I will do a superficial triple brake tap at perfectly timed interval. Such that I'm not really slowing the car down other than decelerating, but using my brake lights to provide a warning brake pattern at a rate of about 3 taps in about 1.5 seconds.

    Yes, I agree. It would be hard. One could argue you were checking if your lights were on or not. Even in the day, I could say I was trying to see if my DRLs were active -- looking at the indicator lights on the dashboard. I just wouldn't want to have to be bothered to have to explain that to an officer who stopped me :D
     
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    Elsewhere, intelligent people would observe brake lights and think why? In Florida, brake lights are a random occurrence sometimes indicating that someone in the vehicle realized they were accelerating to 20 MPH below PSL!
     
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    Or accidentally forget which side my wiper spray activation is on :)
     
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    It's always been bad out there, and smartphones have only made it worse.

    Very few folks understand how to "read sign." The inability to respond to a direct communication like a flashing headlights is just one example. Some signs are a bit more cryptic. If the car 500 yards ahead of me is almost out of sight around a blind curve and I see its brake lights flash, that means there is something up ahead of him that I can't see yet...so I'll slow down. Most don't know that is a clue. Or when you are on a dry road on a cloudy day and the vehicles coming toward you have their wipers on, that tells you it's raining up ahead, so adjust accordingly. In years gone by, other drivers likely saw these signs, but didn't understand what they were looking at. Today, in addition to not understanding what the signs mean, they also have their heads in their phones, so they don't even see the signs...which they don't understand anyway.
     
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    I try my best to signal anyone who is around me with my headlights and brake lights,but like he said,you can't fix stupid,even with duct tape!
     
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    Perhaps they realize they are in the right lane and need to make a left at the 5th traffic light ahead.
     
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    Yes, I just had a guy flashing his high beam's behind me, thinking wtf, turns out he was looking for the wiper sprayer and kept hitting the wrong switch haha.

    I try to do this as well, the problem is, it's so damn flat where I live I'll get a full ramp alert, start to decelerate and give a brake tap, but sometimes ends up being a 5 minute drive before we see a cop, so they're probably thinking, what the heck is this guy doing...and disregard it.

    I used to have LED lights built into my rear bumper so if I was coming into a trap (during the day) I'd flash my rear lights as they were bright as F and would get your attention.

    I did get a thumbs up from one guy in Edmonton, I knew there was a trap ahead so I was doing the PSL. This van was about to pass me on the left so I did the arm out the window wave at him while he was coming up beside me. RD was going off, getting closer the ALP's went off, the guy finally noticed the speed trap ahead and gave me a thumbs up for saving him!
     
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    Problem with flashing lights in a view of a LEO is that they pull you over in some states and ticket you for doing so. I always flash the lights when I clear the line of sight.

    I also flick my hazards for 2 cycles to thank anyone who let me go by etc etc etc...many times I get the flash back and many other times I get massive confused angry looks.


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