Stealth/Ghost Graphics Purpose VS Unmarked?

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  1. PRNDL

    PRNDL Automatic Overdrive Beginner User

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    This is just me being curious about why some agencies are even going through the cost and effort of producing stealth/ghost graphics for their patrol cars vs the cheaper option of simply running unmarked units.

    Is it a legality thing? Or more of an intimidation/"coolness" factor? For example, a couple of local agencies in my area run both stealth and full unmarked units, which kind of makes the stealth units redundant.
     
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    They probably just go for whatever wastes the most taxpayer money.
     
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    It's a clever work around if your state has an unmarked car ban. They are "technically" marked, so they can pursue you until you crash or run out of gas.
     
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    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 4, 2018, Original Post Date: Sep 4, 2018 ---
    I know I'm a foreigner, but when doing the graphics for the local Leos they told me their traffic cars have to be marked, so the BS Ghost "car color" reflective graphics we did were a bare minimum needed to do traffic patrol
     
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    I've done so many bids to design police car graphics but never got the gig. How do you get that detail?
     
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    Small Town, 100K with a mandate to deal local, we we're one of the 5 shops(out of 23 in the area) that put in a tender, we were not the cheapest but we had past dealing with them.
     
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    Maybe they are worried that your graphics will say, "Pigs inside" when lit from behind. :)

    (Not that there's anything wrong with that...)
     
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    In my state, they've run unmarked for decades...

    From an article from 2015 - www.azcentral.com: DPS unveils 'ghost' cars for holiday DUI enforcement


    I can understand the reflectivity aspect, especially in rural areas - got some severe dark out here in the desert most every night!

    A conversation piece?

    Based on your question & responses so far, I guess he's right. :D
     
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    Apologies for the double post.
     
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    I don't know if you're aware or not but you're state patrol has deployed an unmarked yellow Mustang GT and red Challenger as a part of their aggressive driving task force.
     
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    They seem to stick around Maricopa County. My last trip up that way, there's plenty to keep a squad like that busy all day.

    Around ¡Baja Arizona!, you should look for the charcoal gray Challenger...seen him a few times.
     
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    See... now that's what this forum is looking for. If you have time please create an AZ section in RDFGS in the app development section and add these vehicles plus any other relevant into you have. Unmarked car specs are critical.
     
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    That's why you run your HID lights between 5000k to 6500k the spectrum is the "whitest" and it bleeds into some UV which is highly reactive to the reflective safety signs, stickers, labels etc. My 5.5k HID basically makes the STOP signs glow.
     
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    UV has little to do with what your eyes see. It’s provably scatter if you’re running HIDs in reflector housings ;)