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He had a stalker unit in hold mode on the dash. First laser hit was the camera passing by the point of entry with a k band hit. These guys were further up the road. Did a little reading and they have gatso traffic cameras placed at the scale houses on the interstate and that probably got my reading. I've blown by it before doing 80.
Now I'm even more confused. What do you mean by "First laser hit was the camera passing by the point of entry with a k band hit."? Stalkers are 34.7, so not the source of the radar you saw above. 35.5 would be Kustom or Decatur.

According to the IIHS and the Gatso website, there are no speed or red light cameras in Oklahoma. I did find articles on Gatso ALPRs in use in OK to catch uninsured drivers. These cameras may use an infrared flash, but are not equipped with radar.

Looking at a map of the terrain there, you should be able to pick up I/O for miles. It seems more likely you were clocked by LIDAR, but it's weird they wrote radar on the warning. I guess since they're not going to court it doesn't matter what they put.
 

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Are you sure it wasn’t laser? Lots of cops write radar even when it’s laser it seems.

Were you going faster and they maybe caught you slowing down so decided to hassle you anyway?

And wow putting you in the car. What a waste of time for 3mph.
 

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What are the odds that somebody drove by faster than 73 when he was writing the warning? I'd guess pretty high since when I drove that stretch of road a good number of people were doing at least 85. I probably shouldn't say what I averaged through Texas.

So is that article basically saying they're setting the speeding ticket prices like a business trying to optimally price their "product" to generate maximum revenue?
 

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Are you sure it wasn’t laser? Lots of cops write radar even when it’s laser it seems.

Were you going faster and they maybe caught you slowing down so decided to hassle you anyway?

And wow putting you in the car. What a waste of time for 3mph.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard cops on TV or in a newspaper mentioning their new "laser radar", "lidar radar", or just say "radar" while holding a lidar gun.
 

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What are the odds that somebody drove by faster than 73 when he was writing the warning? I'd guess pretty high since when I drove that stretch of road a good number of people were doing at least 85. I probably shouldn't say what I averaged through Texas.



So is that article basically saying they're setting the speeding ticket prices like a business trying to optimally price their "product" to generate maximum revenue?
That's the one. I think Fallin said she hoped the bill would entice officers to write more citations.
 

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Looks like he was fishing with a 3mph tolerance.

@hammerdown You have any familiarity with the tactics in this area?
Familiar with the tactic of highway patrol here being a bunch of douche canoes? Yeah... I am vaguely familiar with that... :rolleyes:

WTMF over? :confused: 3 miles over? Thats BS...

Where the holy fuck is Eric, OK? :confused:

Lived here all my life and never heard of that place...

Oh, I see... an OHP in Beckham County...

and running 35.5? :eek: thought all those Brown Shirts were running was 34.7

Daaaaaammmmnnn... :eek:

Thats some BS right there...

Note to self:

"Packs of douche canoes running 35.5 in Beckham Co..... +3psl tolerance... dont fucking speed there... "

Got it....
 
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What are the odds that somebody drove by faster than 73 when he was writing the warning? I'd guess pretty high since when I drove that stretch of road a good number of people were doing at least 85. I probably shouldn't say what I averaged through Texas.



So is that article basically saying they're setting the speeding ticket prices like a business trying to optimally price their "product" to generate maximum revenue?
Not only that but with all 1 to 10 tickets being only a $100, I bet officers are not going to be as willing to reduce tickets down.... too much lost profit.

No more breaks.... :(
 

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They put you in the cop car for going 3 over? WTF?

Also, did they clock you with radar or laser? When you say he had a Stalker in hold mode, I assume you mean a Stalker lidar gun. If it was radar, then it wasn't the source of the 35.5 ka. If it was laser, I wouldn't be so hard on your V1.
OHP standard practice is that they get you out of the car and have you sit in their front passenger seat while they write you the ticket.
 

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Now I'm even more confused. What do you mean by "First laser hit was the camera passing by the point of entry with a k band hit."? Stalkers are 34.7, so not the source of the radar you saw above. 35.5 would be Kustom or Decatur.

According to the IIHS and the Gatso website, there are no speed or red light cameras in Oklahoma. I did find articles on Gatso ALPRs in use in OK to catch uninsured drivers. These cameras may use an infrared flash, but are not equipped with radar.

Looking at a map of the terrain there, you should be able to pick up I/O for miles. It seems more likely you were clocked by LIDAR, but it's weird they wrote radar on the warning. I guess since they're not going to court it doesn't matter what they put.
No speed or red light cams in OK. State Law does not allow it.
 

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No speed or red light cams in OK. State Law does not allow it.
The camera in front of the POE sends you a ticket in the mail if you don't have insurance or speed by it, it's a weak k band hit followed by laser. It's a gatso traffic camera, I saw an article about it dated 2012.

The cop had what I thought was a stalker unit on the dash in hold mode,. My R3 wasn't running at the time. Ididn't hear the first I/o shot go off it was so weak, for some reason the app is muting weak ka alerts at the detector, noticed it again going through Arkansas today in the kband hell area west of Memphis on i40. I'm going to disable all braps and beeps from the app sonit only comes out of the detector instead. It doesn't come out the Bluetooth connection and only throigh my phone speakers which aren't loud at all.
 

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Pulled over for 73 in a 70 by Eric, Ok. God awful 35.5 pickup range with my V1,
They were out for blood tonight, four piled under the bridge and, six more down the road. View attachment 86636View attachment 86637View attachment 86638View attachment 86639
So much for the 10 MPH tolerance that LEOs and state legislators always claim. When we lobbied for higher speed limits for Indiana highways, the claimed it wasn't necessary with the "tolerance" they allow. Yeah, right! A low toerance I would expect from a podunk town Barney Fife, but am a little surprised to see this from a state police or highway patrol.

It's a new financial strategy. Less profit per speeder, but a higher volume to make up for it!

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I didn't hear the first I/o shot go off it was so weak, for some reason the app is muting weak ka alerts at the detector
Sometimes one weak I/O shot is all you get! Especially in Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri and Arkansas. Gotta pay attention to your detector!! Here's one from 4 years ago...


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The camera in front of the POE sends you a ticket in the mail if you don't have insurance or speed by it, it's a weak k band hit followed by laser. It's a gatso traffic camera, I saw an article about it dated 2012.

The cop had what I thought was a stalker unit on the dash in hold mode,. My R3 wasn't running at the time. Ididn't hear the first I/o shot go off it was so weak, for some reason the app is muting weak ka alerts at the detector, noticed it again going through Arkansas today in the kband hell area west of Memphis on i40. I'm going to disable all braps and beeps from the app sonit only comes out of the detector instead. It doesn't come out the Bluetooth connection and only throigh my phone speakers which aren't loud at all.
If this is true then you need to make a complaint to the Oklahoma State Attorney General's office because they are in violation of state law. In Oklahoma a misdemeanor offense MUST be witnessed by a police officer. Thats why we cant have red light and speed cams. Thats also why if a citizen sees a violation and calls the police, the police cant issue a ticket unless they see it or the citizen files a complaint and comes to court.


https://www.tulsaautoaccidentslaw.com/red-light-cameras-not-permitted-under-oklahoma-law/

And even if this camera is there like you say it is I know for a fact that it's not scanning license plates and issuing insurance tickets because that system just came online within the last year. Up until just recently a police officer could not run your tag and see a confirmation on your insurance. They relied solely on a verification that you had to present to them to verify it.

Not only that but the only ALPRS systems I've ever saw in Oklahoma are on specialty law enforcement vehicles like the drug task force guys. I have never saw them mounted on Poles or at intersections or anything else and I'm not certain our state law allows that either.

At any rate I guarantee you our state cannot afford them In that sufficient of a quantity to mount on poles.... neither can our cities. This state is f******* broke.
 
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If this is true then you need to make a complaint to the Oklahoma State Attorney General's office because they are in violation of state law. In Oklahoma a misdemeanor offense MUST be witnessed by a police officer. Thats why we cant have red light and speed cams. Thats also why if a citizen sees a violation and calls the police, the police cant issue a ticket unless they see it or the citizen files a complaint and comes to court.


https://www.tulsaautoaccidentslaw.com/red-light-cameras-not-permitted-under-oklahoma-law/

And even if this camera is there like you say it is I know for a fact that it's not scanning license plates and issuing insurance tickets because that system just came online within the last year. Up until just recently a police officer could not run your tag and see a confirmation on your insurance. They relied solely on a verification that you had to present to them to verify it.

Not only that but the only ALPRS systems I've ever saw in Oklahoma are on specialty law enforcement vehicles like the drug task force guys. I have never saw them mounted on Poles or at intersections or anything else and I'm not certain our state law allows that either.

At any rate I guarantee you our state cannot afford them In that sufficient of a quantity to mount on poles.... neither can our cities. This state is f******* broke.
Even for a trial period or duration of the completion of a project? Reason I ask is because when they were replacing the old tollbooth on on HE Bailey from Chickasha to Lawton, during the construction of it, they had signs posted that the area was monitored by speed cameras.
 

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Sometimes one weak I/O shot is all you get! Especially in Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri and Arkansas. Gotta pay attention to your detector!! Here's one from 4 years ago...


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Wow I don’t know who was more patient there, you or the LEO. Most of us certainly would have sped up after that long! Nice.
 

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Wow I don’t know who was more patient there, you or the LEO. Most of us certainly would have sped up after that long! Nice.
Clearly I won the patience award that day! :p It isn't easy being disciplined and keeping to only PSL+10% when you feel like doing a hundred. But it pays off when you come across that kind of enemy.
 

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Wow I don’t know who was more patient there, you or the LEO. Most of us certainly would have sped up after that long! Nice.
Another reason to have your detector segged (less falses) and to know radar propagation inside and out

On that long straight road you can easily pick up Ka in my case an R3 from 5 miles away
You have to identify the source
Sometimes its from exit crossroads
And sometimes its that

I have a sneaking suspicion troopers in my neck of the woods are using selective IO shots timed in their difficult terrain so even top tier detectors cant pick them up
And the only person that picks them up is the poor bastard they just shot in the back
 

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