Motorcycle R3 with Bluetooth transmitter - Any Experiences?

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Has anyone had experience with the R3 and a Bluetooth transmitter into a Sena communicator?
 

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Has anyone had experience with the R3 and a Bluetooth transmitter into a Sena communicator?
I bought a cheap teansmitter..looks like it will work with scala just not sure how well or how well it will play with other devices

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Anyone have experience with the Sena SM10 used as a bluetooth transmitter for the R-3 to a Sena SRL headset. The description says the SM10 will increase the volume to the headset by 100% - that would be very useful.
 

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I just mounted an R1 on my K1600GTL with a Sena SM10 to connect via bluetooth to my Cardo Packtalk headset. I wanted to be able to stream music from my i-phone as well as get alerts from the R1. I tried the inexpensive bluetooth transmitters available, but they only have a single input. Once I link my headset to one of the A2DP transmitters, the phone is blocked out (or vice-versa), so I could either listen to music or hear alerts, not both. The SM10 has two source inputs and is designed to interrupt the main source (i-phone music) with the auxiliary source (detector) whenever a signal is generated on the aux input. The SM10 does allow a "boost" of the signal, but I find it to just make the signal about the same as the other bluetooth transmitters. BTW, the SM10 will allow you to listen to your phone, but not make calls.

In my setup, both the detector and SM10 are powered by switched power lines from the bike. You will probably need a ground loop isolator if you plan to power both devices from the bike's battery. Otherwise the transmission will be severely distorted.
 

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This is how my R1/SM10/ground loop isolator looks on my K1600. The R1 is sitting on a Ram magnetic detector mount that I have attached to an aluminum arm that I fabricated. The line going off screen on the bottom left goes to my phone.

Note that if you want the SM10 to power on with the bike you must disconnect its internal battery. Then leave the power switch in the “on” position and it will immediately power up with the ignition switch.
 

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I have the R3 and an SM10 that transmits to my Sena headset. I have tested it but not installed it yet on my 2018 Ducati XDiavel. Hoping to have the wiring done by this weekend. You can use a Sena SR10 if you want phone/music and radar sounds at the same time since it uses HFP instead of A2DP, but there are other drawbacks (mono, delays...).
 

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I have the R3 and an SM10 that transmits to my Sena headset. I have tested it but not installed it yet on my 2018 Ducati XDiavel. Hoping to have the wiring done by this weekend. You can use a Sena SR10 if you want phone/music and radar sounds at the same time since it uses HFP instead of A2DP, but there are other drawbacks (mono, delays...).
Have been running the R3 for a few weeks and it works great. I have the R3 connected to the Sena SM10 (cable) which connects to my Sena SRL2 headset in the helmet (Bluetooth). I have a cheap unpowered ground loop isolator in between the SM10 and the radar detector which eliminated all of the noise (due to both devices being powered off the same battery/ground). The SM10 auto-connects at when I start the bike and power up the headset.

Tip: remove the battery from the SM10 to run it directly from the motorcycle battery (USB conversion cable from Amazon) and it will auto power on and auto power off each time. Just make sure the SM10 is turn on (switch turn one) before you power up the bike or it won't power on the SM10. Once you get this setup, you don't have to touch a thing, and it just works.

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honestly if you are doing multi day multi hour trips your best bet is to grab a couple of head phones (the eons that come with the phones are good enough) run them inside your helmet in the hole where the sena speakers are , and tape them in a way that they point towards your ear, you have to remember to unplug them before you get off the bike and plug them back in when you get on the bike but it beats having to worry about yet another set of batteries or complicated stuff and since they are not in your ear they don't hurt your ear or reduce the listening ability from the sena speakers except when the detector is going off .
 

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I'm having a problem when using the Redline-O on my motorcycle.
I recently got a sena 20S Evo dual. I have my phone connected (Bluetooth) and works fine while riding and talking to the wife.
The Redline is connected directly to the sena with the included coiled audio cable, but I can't hear the Redline, even while turning up the volume (dial) when it's alerting, sometimes I get a distorted weird sound and sometimes nothing.
Any ideas regarding what the problems is, is the mono adapter needed or is it something else?
 
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I'm having a problem when using the Redline-O on my motorcycle.
I recently got a sena 20S Evo dual. I have my phone connected (Bluetooth) and works fine while riding and talking to the wife.
The Redline is connected directly to the sena with the included coiled audio cable, but I can't hear the Redline, even while turning up the volume (dial) when it's alerting, sometimes I get a distorted weird sound and sometimes nothing.
Any ideas regarding what the problems is, is the mono adapter needed or is it something else?
I had an issue getting my TPX (laser jammer) to work with the SM10 transmitter and found that half pulling the audio cable fixed the issue (not a solution) so I thought that a mono plug was needed. The mono plug did not resolve the issue (no sound or distorted low volume). I put a small ground loop isolator in the mix and it now works perfectly with a stereo plug. You might try a cheap ground loop isolator to see if it fixed your issue as well.
 

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Ok, I should probably get both, I need this figured out by next weekend since I'm doing a 3 day ride.
I assume the what I need is a mono 3.5mm plug for redline with a stereo 3.5mm receiver for the ground loop isolator and then sena cable.
 

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Ok, I should probably get both, I need this figured out by next weekend since I'm doing a 3 day ride.
I assume the what I need is a mono 3.5mm plug for redline with a stereo 3.5mm receiver for the ground loop isolator and then sena cable.
I would purchase multiple cables to verify what you need. Mono-to-mono, stereo-to-mono, stereo-to-stereo.

Here is the GLI that I use.

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Well, I already placed the order assuming the mono plug, but with prime it should be here tomorrow and I'll know for sure.
I had found the same GLI as you.
I'll report back. Thanks for advice.
 

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Well, I already placed the order assuming the mono plug, but with prime it should be here tomorrow and I'll know for sure.
I had found the same GLI as you.
I'll report back. Thanks for advice.
Mono plug yes. How are the straight roads treating you back home. ;)
 

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yep, hanging in there... lol, luckily the few go-to routes that I have keep things interesting...
 

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my suggestion to you if you want to go wireless is buy a second Sena (you cannot use the Aux plug and the music from the blue tooth at the same time) and install the second sena on the right side of the helmet , install the speakers inside the helmet close to your ears.Buy a wireless aux to blue tooth adapter and plug it into the Red line(battery lasts about 10 hours) pair it with the new sena . bingo!
 

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Something weird happened.
I got the mono adapter and when tested with just the Redline I couldn't hear anything... crap. Moved the cables around and in/out an nothing. Then I took the adapter off and plugged the sena cable alone back in and it worked after pulling the cable in/out once (just one speaker on the sena... mono). Weird.
Then I connected my phone (Bluetooth) and turned on music, and both worked! The sena would lower the music down to let the Redline alert in.
The only thing that I have not tried yet is to connect to the wife's sena, my phone AND the cable for Redline, but I am happy that I can at least get it to work when riding solo.
I am guessing a bad connection was the initial problem or me not seating cables properly.
Hopefully all works this weekend :)
 

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You have to pass down the trick, i was never able to get both to work

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I will update again after this weekend, I will have time to figure it out or fail miserably... lol
 

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I have an SM10 with audio from my ancient Garmin zumo 550 going into the audio port of the SM10 via the stereo cable that came with the SM10. My RD is plugged into the aux port of the SM10, this works just fine but with Escort detectors I had to use a mono-to-stereo adapter plug at the radar end and a stereo cable plugged into the SM10 to hear the detector in both ears. The SM10 is paired to my Cardo SmartPack headset. The other Bluetooth slot on the Cardo is paired to the zumo 550. I have my phone paired to the z550 and not to the Cardo. The 550 Bluetooth audio settings are set to "phone only" so that all other audio is sent to the SM10 via the stereo cable. So far this set up is with the SM10 running only on it's internal battery so as to avoid GLI problems and additional wiring. The battery in the SM10 lasts longer than the one in the Cardo SmartPack so I've not been motivated to hardwire the SM10 yet.

A brief test in the garage seems to indicate that my new R7 will work the same way but may not need the mono-to-stereo adapter plug. I need to do more testing to be sure but does anyone know if the headphone jack on the R7 is stereo or mono?
 

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