Rt 2 in CT: laser vs radar?

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New to the RD world and discovered that RDs aren't helpful against laser. I travel Rt 2 from Norwich to Hartford for work as the main bulk of my driving.

I have an R3 and I am happy with it but do CT cops use more laser than radar along this route?
 

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While I can't say specifically for rt 2 as I didn't drive it often enough, I lived in CT for 30 years and there was a mix of radar and laser for sure. I got a laser ticket, and a few laser hits while not speeding or thanks to Waze/good situational awareness. And yes RD's are not a good solution to laser, it's rare for them to alert before you are the target, especially if traffic is light. Waze helps some during daylight hours if there are enough users ahead of you, to pin them. Really to deal with laser you need something like ALP or the soon to be released TMG.
 

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As with any location, it may also heavily depend on time of travel. I have heard of extensive laser use in certain areas, only to have repeatedly clear roads when I travel through.
 

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The only solution against laser is active countermeasures. You can't reliably avoid it with passive countermeasures. If we could we would. Even motorcycles can't hid from it.
 

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Being a state highway, you will see mostly (if not all) Laser. Towns use mostly all radar but on the State Highways be prepared for Lidar and a lot of it. All LTI units so at a minimum get a dual ALP which depending on your vehicle, should serve you just fine.
LTI Truspeed, Truspeed Lr's and TSS's. You will rarely see radar on CT state highways anymore mainly because they are big promoters for officer safety, as they can be more "off the road" using Lidar.

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And saying that the R3 is one of , if not THE best radar detector on the market so great choice there. Just dont rely on it to protect you from Laser thats all.
 

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I see, thanks for the information. This place is an amazing resource.

Is there some crowd-sourced centralized database (even a google sheet) that the community keeps updated based on location and what kinds of radar/laser you are seeing?

Really liking the R3 so far. Saved me from 2-3 tickets alone this past weekend on my trip to and from upstate NY. I am new to the RD world, but it seems like NY state troopers love Ka 34.7!
 
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I see, thanks for the information. This place is an amazing resource.

Is there some crowd-sourced centralized database (even a google sheet) that the community keeps updated based on location and what kinds of radar/laser you are seeing?

Really liking the R3 so far. Saved me from 2-3 tickets alone this past weekend on my trip to and from upstate NY. I am new to the RD world, but it seems like NY state troopers love Ka 34.7!

Edit: I am driving a 2018 audi rs3 and one of my major objections to ALP (and anti-laser in general) is that i've read you need to cut the grill to install the sensors :-\
There is, but is getting updated which will still take some time to complete.

Yea NYSP is generally fairly easy. They generally run C/O Radar 34.7 as they can pick off 10mph+ speeders one after another.
But they also have an LTI contract (mostly Ultralyte and Truspeed Lidars) so you need to watch out still.
So looking at your grill you should be able to fit your sensors in your stock grill without cutting. If you want ultimate protection go with 2 Rx sensors and 1 Tx placed round about here. Measure your cut outs, but i bet you would be good to go without cutting. The Rx sensor dimensions are (1.18 x 0.55 x 2.24 in).

* Edit you want about 25 inches from inside edge of one Rx to the other with the Tx in the middle.
 

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Thanks i'll give it a hard look!
 

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Can i ask a basic question?

It seems laser is much more expensive and difficult to combat than radar. Why don’t all cops just use laser for speed limit enforcement? Are radar guns cheaper? Easier to use?
 
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My experience so far after driving in my new area for 2 weeks.

Rt 2 seems to be all laser. My R3 does not make a peep on my 35 min commute to work along route 2. But i constantly see cops on Waze and people getting pulled over. It must be laser.

Off the main roads, where i live, cops run C/O Ka. So much so that my R3 has become a sort of 'cop detector' when i'm not on the highway out here. The range on the R3 is so impressive that i get a 'cop alert' on my R3 well before i even see them on these side roads.

But yeah. The state police in CT aren't messing around :)
 

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Driving through Colchester on Rt 2 last night, had a CTSP running K band in the pitch black. There's a ton of laser on this route, and this is the first time my R3 went off in the last month along this route. 2 lane highway, PSL 65. I start getting a K band alert and assume it's just a BSM at first, but realize there's really nobody near me. then the signal gets stronger and stronger, and that's when i thought maybe they put up a K band speed detector sign (have seen a few of those around here that run on K band).

But because of the ramp up i slowed down to 5 over PSL, and then suddenly my R3 is screaming at me, louder than for any BSM false. I look to my right, and there's a CTSP on the grass, all his lights off. Almost looked like an abandoned car on the side of the road but it was the specific model and color that CTSP use. as soon as I passed him the k band alert started fading. I had plenty of notice even with my K band sensitivity turned down to 50%. Really impressed with the R3.
 

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Nice save, Kband is tough cause there are some many false sources, good job realizing it was legit and slowing in time. There are a lot of reasons why some LEO's prefer radar to laser, cost is one, another is that radar can be used while moving so they can roll along and catch folks while driving around. radar can be a very lazy thing to run, just park and turn on the radar antenna thats usually built in to the cruisers these days then just sit back and listen to the Doppler tones produced by the radar unit while you do paperwork or play on your phone, when you hear the Doppler tone get higher pitched you glance up and see which car is moving the fastest and then go get them. Laser required them to have a steady hand and be focused on snagging folks in traffic (finding clear shots between the lanes of cars to get the target) many of them do like laser as there is much less question of which vehicle was actually speeding (as it's very targeted unlike radar) and it's also harder to defeat (as most folks have either no cm's or at most a RD which wont save them from laser).... Look into some laser protection since you encounter it a bunch, after only a couple laser saves the system will have paid for itself (tickets and insurance increases add up quick). CT mostly runs easy guns, so you don't need to be dragon proof, a Dual ALP or a dual TMG will likely suffice unless you have a large vehicle
 

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Had another great save with the R3 today!

I mentioned how the local police run C/O Ka on the side roads here. Today i was driving to work, it was approximately 6:15 AM, still dark out here in CT. I take about 15 minutes of back roads to get to the highway. These backroads are hilly, windy, and empty at this time of day. It's fun to drive fast on them because of that. I've never seen a cop on this stretch until today.

I was going about 60 in a 40, nobody on the road. Suddenly i start getting Ka band alert nearly at max volume on the R3. I jam on the brakes, now i'm going 40. I don't see a cop anywhere, but the R3 is screaming at me. I go for another 15-20 seconds or so and then i see him. Sneak local cop parked on the grass, lights off, on the side of the road. I pass him going 1 mph under the PSL, and the Ka fades.

I'm really impressed with how much notice the R3 gave me on such bad terrain. While I still need to find an anti laser solution for the highways, the R3 is proving its worth time and time again on these CT back roads!