Updates ?

Discussion in 'Uniden' started by John290, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. John290

    John290 Learning to Drive General User

    Messages:
    37
    Likes Received:
    3
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2018
    I'm not interested in turning waze on ,on my phone every time I get in the car. That's why I bought the uniden when I start my car it automatically turns on. I believed that when I bought it they would keep up on database updates. But they're not doing that
     
  2. omgboost

    omgboost Left Lane Hog Security Attaché Advanced User Premium Member

    Messages:
    2,680
    Likes Received:
    2,975
    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2014
    Location:
    Forced Induction Land
    What do you expect from them? To have drivers in every state driving around every day looking for red light/speed cameras? These are free updates. If you were paying for a subscription update like Escort Live, I'd expect more frequent updates. As for the Uniden and Radenso red light/speed camera updates, I'm happy with the frequency of updates as it is now.
     
    benzr and DChiJEllis like this.
  3. Rango

    Rango Learning to Fly Beginner User

    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    211
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2017
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    The RLC database has nothing to do with firmware update and work that is being done on firmware. Uniden please DO NOT hold up RLC update due to firmware work. There is nothing to test with RLC update!

    I am not sure why RLC database is being held up due to work being done on firmware. Those are two completely separate files.

    RLC update should be release quarterly IMO, at least. It's been 4 months since last update.

    P.S
    Waze is not better then R3 for RLC. The announcements threw speakerphone is not loud enough and it's muffled to get my attention and can't use bluetooth as it's being used for calls/music therefor R3 wins as i keep missing it on waze. If you use bluetooth and lose it's connection you're a toast.

    Furthermore pinching (zoom in and out) absolutely sucks on Waze. It's terrible. Scaling of the map is also terrible. It's good turn by turn navigation by it has major scaling issues. GMaps has it's issues too like for exp. alley placement, but scaling is correct. Route previews are also far far better. Since Google owns Waze they should just improve both they're not fixing any issues in neither.
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018
    siq49 likes this.
  4. siq49

    siq49 Learning to Fly Beginner User

    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    169
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2018
    big cities like NYC and Chicago need updates of RLC and Speed cams more often then every 4 months it is vital as a CM. in NYC speed cams and RLC are changed very often not every 4 months. I would pay for a subscription with Uniden to get the RLC & SPPED cam updates more often then every 4 or 5 months
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018
    Rango likes this.
  5. Deadhead1971

    Deadhead1971 “For the Glory of Rome” Advanced User

    Messages:
    1,448
    Likes Received:
    1,578
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2014
    Location:
    Central NC
    I was thinking about this the other day. You have red light camera databases why couldn’t you have a database for roads the have Vascar stripes? Or an alert that indicates you are entering area with aerial speed enforcement.
     
    benzr and Kennyc56 like this.
  6. KJM3

    KJM3 Learning to Drive General User

    Messages:
    32
    Likes Received:
    14
    Country:
    Canada
    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2015
    Waze is definitely better for RLC, because it knows to only alert you when you're approaching from the direction where the camera will take a picture.

    With my iPhone, I can leave my Waze app open (but not navigating) and listen to music in my car and Waze will alert me over Bluetooth (and pause the music) when there is anything to report (Police, Pothole, RLC etc.)
     
    embellisher likes this.
  7. Rango

    Rango Learning to Fly Beginner User

    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    211
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2017
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    If you're listening to a radio music, which is 80% what is on in my car then you would need to change to AUX in order for bluetooth to take effect. Not practical execution.

    Also if your car Bluetooth disconnects from your phone you're a toast. I don't have that problem but i hear some Bluetooth do that. Your car gets some generic Bluetooth driver from china that costs $10.
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018
    siq49 likes this.
  8. 420smoke

    420smoke PSL +5 Intermediate User

    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    213
    Country:
    Canada
    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2016
    Location:
    Edmonton
    Hopefully they fix the speeds for rlc in Edmonton most spots are off by 10 km.

    Posted from my LG-H915 using the RDF Mobile App!
     
    siq49 likes this.
  9. DChiJEllis

    DChiJEllis Moderator Moderator Advanced User Premium Member

    Messages:
    1,332
    Likes Received:
    1,773
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2016
    Location:
    Central Iowa, USA
    All,
    I think the point has been made in this and many other threads about everyone’s preference for the cadence of RLC updates and separating them from the firmware. Rehashing it all over again isn’t going to make Uniden go any faster on this update, IMO. I’m confident the beta testers will share this feedback and others with them.


    Posted from my iPhone using the RDF Mobile App.
     
    oldcelt, siq49 and Smeeb like this.
  10. Layne

    Layne PSL +5 Intermediate User

    Messages:
    712
    Likes Received:
    470
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2014
    Location:
    Bama

    Waze is what the pros use both as a second layer of protection from speed traps, but also as the main source of PSL and cameras. You should run Waze all the time. It just might give you a save from a cop that's being using I/O very selectively.

    I'd think these internal databases on our detectors would only be updated a few times a year. I don't even have the camera notifications turned on so what do I know anyhow?

    It's funny to see the stuff people are complaining about. A lot of it is from shills psuhing another brand of RD and a few are just people new to the game. Either way it's pretty funny imo.
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018
    embellisher and btmgov like this.
  11. siq49

    siq49 Learning to Fly Beginner User

    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    169
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2018
    In big cities like NYC they put up RLC and Speed Cams over night all the time and even CHANGE locations, turn them off, and on a revolving basis. because of this, it it Vital to have the most CURRENT databases in the RD for the BEST COUNTER MEASURES POSSIBLE. But some people that don't know what is going on in a BIG city like NYC should not put down people that require this Counter Measure. why don't you come to NYC and keep your RLC off see how you feel about it when you experience it for yourself, if you can comprehend it, which I doubt. It is pretty funny imo that some people just don't get it.
     
    Rango likes this.
  12. Layne

    Layne PSL +5 Intermediate User

    Messages:
    712
    Likes Received:
    470
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2014
    Location:
    Bama
    Hmmm.. Sounds like Waze is the way to go like I already said.. The R series is a radar/laser detector. Not a RLC detector. Since PEOPLE DO NOT BUY A RADAR DETECTOR BASED ON THE RLC ALERTS, using something that gets updated in real time (like WAZE) is the way to go if it's so important to you.
     
    siq49 likes this.
  13. Heywood

    Heywood Learning Something New, Still Dying Stupid Advanced User Premium Member

    Messages:
    1,348
    Likes Received:
    1,373
    Country:
    Canada
    Joined:
    May 12, 2016
    Location:
    Alberta Canada
    Agree. If it’s that big of a concern, how about driving through an intersection like a normal person?

    I agree radar detectors let you run a little above the speed limit, on the open road, but an intersection should be treated in a whole different scenario.

    Why the concern about RLC updates? Blowing though intersections much and need the most up to date information??


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    embellisher and Layne like this.
  14. Rango

    Rango Learning to Fly Beginner User

    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    211
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2017
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    The reason i bought R3 was for RLC. In Chi/NY u will get tickets way faster for RLC then u will ever get for speeding. Thats not even close to debate.

    Waze has flaws i described above. Its great that it has almost live update but execution on the phone is problematic.

    And btw i am a pro and its actually other way around.

    Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk
     
    siq49 likes this.
  15. btmgov

    btmgov What's a PSL?? Intermediate User Premium Member

    Messages:
    407
    Likes Received:
    458
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2018
    Location:
    Central Florida
    I get what you are saying there, but the R's RLC alerting just isn't that great even if it were updated weekly. It alerts to a RLC being at the intersection well enough, problem is that RLC may or may not be monitoring your direction of travel. It could be monitoring the road you are about to cross and the R will still alert. To me, that defeats the entire purpose. It is also next to impossible to keep up with these RLC. In my area, they come and go constantly. A user based system is the only thing that is going to come close to staying on top of it reliably.
    Waze is hands down better than the R will ever be at RLC. I deal with tons of RLC all over Florida. They come and go daily. A user based data base is the only way to go. Waze can tell you EXACTLY where the RLC is located (i.e. exact direction of travel), the R3, if it even alerts, cannot. And seriously, the reason you bought an R3 was for RLC??? Seriously......
     
    embellisher and benzr like this.
  16. LexusISF

    LexusISF Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

    Messages:
    947
    Likes Received:
    685
    Country:
    Canada
    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2017
    Location:
    Vancouver, B.C.
    Thanks for sharing I didnt know Waze would work that way with an Iphone, thanks I will try it!
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2018
  17. benzr

    benzr Been there done that !! Original V1 user !! Advanced User

    Messages:
    2,936
    Likes Received:
    2,677
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Location:
    FLA
    I TOTALLY WANT THAT !!!

    Ingenious !!

    Benzr


    Posted from my iPhone using the RDF Mobile App!
     
    Layne likes this.
  18. Layne

    Layne PSL +5 Intermediate User

    Messages:
    712
    Likes Received:
    470
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2014
    Location:
    Bama
    OK... As long as YOU think so.

    I've never heard of a "pro" buying a RD exclusively for RLC notifications... and yeah I guess red light tickets could be a problem living in places as cucked as Chicago or NYC. I know there are scams associated w/ reducing the length of yellow light duration after cams are installed too. Best thing to do in areas like this IMO is to STOP and come to a complete STOP before turning on a red... or make modifications to your plates to make recording them legibly impossible. Also.. Blowing through intersections is much more dangerous than going +10 PSL as someone already brought up. If you're having problems w/ excess RLC tickets, you're obviously doing something wrong.

    Please fill me in w/ detail as of why Waze is not the ideal tool to use if being notified of these RLC is important to you. The only reason we have ability to get warning on our RD is because it a bonus feature added on since the GPS is already there for speed and lockout purposes. Also, 3rd party companies supply the RD manufacturers with the data when/as it becomes available to them. Accuracy of that data also varies by location sometimes too of course. All it is, as you know, is a database of information by GPS co-ordinates.
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018
  19. siq49

    siq49 Learning to Fly Beginner User

    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    169
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2018
    I never go through red lights, ever. Its not just RLC data base, i'm very worried about the Speed Camera database being up to date if at all posssible. Because in NYC the max speed limit is 25mph and it is Vital to know where these speed cameras are so you are Aware by the RD telling you so I don't go over 25mph. I agree Waze is good and I do use it but I have seen intersections where Waze did not have any alert and I saw a camera, and when I am connected to my car on Apple Car Play the Waze running in the background messes with my music playing and disconnects intermittely. You really have to be careful in NYC they are revenue generating 'ticket machines' all over. Anyway, I purchased the R3 not just for Radar, but also I want Counter Measure Awareness of RLC and Speed Cams, and I expected to see RLC & Speed cams updates more often then every 4 or 5 months thats all I am saying. I would pay for the database if there was an option. Uniden should not make customers wait for the RLC & Speed cam updates and "hold" it to release along with a Firm Ware update, it just doesn't make sense. One thing does not have anything to do with the other, they should be treated individually, Let Uniden take a year to give me the FirmWare; but don't sit on an updated release of RLC and Speedcam for over 4 months...
     
    Rango likes this.
  20. Layne

    Layne PSL +5 Intermediate User

    Messages:
    712
    Likes Received:
    470
    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2014
    Location:
    Bama

    Who told you they were holding back a camera database release just to have it go along with the FW update when it's ready? I don't think that's correct. It would make no sense for them to do that.

    When Uniden first came out w/ the LRD950, no new RLC updates came out for A LONG TIME. Whistlers have update able databases, last I heard there are very long lapses between updates. The most consistent company (In the past) as far as RLC updates (and they're very proud of it) is Escort. They offer a paid subscription to the Defender Database. IDK if it's worth it though. There are no camera where I currently reside. We had them in Knoxville,TN but I still never needed the reminder from my RD. I knew what intersections had them.

    You said you got to an intersection w/ a camera and it wasn't marked on Waze. Well.. you should of marked it in Waze! It's a user sourced data app.. There will always be times when any database is wrong. On a RD, the only way to correct it is adding a marked location. You may need to help update Waze sometimes, but I'm telling you it's your best option. The bluetooth/airplay problem is another issue. TBH in your situation I'd just assume all lights had a camera.
     
    siq49 likes this.