Do police officers undergo "visual estimation training"? (1 Viewer)

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I realize this post is a wee bit old but I have been enjoying this book, " The Rules of The Game" written by J. Scott Stevens.

He is/was a LEO ( Not quite sure of His status currently) and on page 27 in the Kindle version He addresses the speed estimation issue.
It's been an interesting read so far!
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It's pretty much your word against his when it gets right down to it. Guess how that's going to work out when you get in front of the judge? Remember, he can always claim he got you on radar. And never mind about the ole' show me my speed on your gun BS. He could have clocked the space shuttle for all you know! I've asked to see my speed before and got told "If I show it to you, I'll have to write you up for what it's showing and not be able to give you a break." With all the BS in the news recently about cops planting drugs on random people just for the hell of it, what are the odds that the ''visual estimation" is not going to be total BS too?
 

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Remember, he can always claim he got you on radar.
I had that happen once, years ago. It’s the one citation I’ve actively fought. I never got the chance because he didn’t feel like fighting back and preempted my chance with a recommendation tic drop it and the court agreed. He got what he wanted, a massive inconvenience for me.
 

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I posted about this here a long time ago. In June 1972, I was in the left (of three) lane on the Long Island Expressway. We were in the midst of Hurricane Agnes, traffic was dense and moving at about 20 - 25 mph, as there was about 4 - 6 inches of water on the road. I suddenly got lit up by a Nassau County Highway patrol. He made me sit in his patrol unit while he wrote me a ticket for doing 70 mph. I said "you've got to be kidding!" and he replied "Shut up or I'll write you up for tailgating (I wasn't) and other offenses". I hired an excellent attorney for $250 (a lot of money in 1972) Got to court and my attorney asked him how he arrived at that number. He stated that he estimated my speed. My attorney then questioned him about the weather/road conditions and whether his "training" had included estimating under those conditions. The answer, of course, was "No". Judge immediately dismissed the charges. The LEO (a Sargent) lost his temper and slammed the courtroom door on his way out. Judge had the bailiff arrest the cop for contempt of court. $250 well spent. I'd been discharged from the military the previous July, and hadn't cut my hair in the intervening time. Pretty sure the ticket was because of the hair/beard, but I'll never know for sure.
 

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