Indiana natives need some advice

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  1. erickonphoenix

    erickonphoenix LLE, Left Lane Enforcer Advanced User Premium Member

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    Kind of jumping here for Mark. I was told the straight V is the best uneven configuration until you go TX. Then keeping the TX head above 20" off the tarmac is the most important. So his setup should be golden.
     
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    markxyz PSL + whatever Intermediate User Premium Member

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    Only against the Dragon Eye guns. Two years ago I tested this setup against our good friend and colleague @RedRocket and did pretty well. Last year though he decimated me with his two Compacts. Everything else it was still solid against. The results are posted in the Intermediate section.
     
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    Bossdad71 Premium Member Advanced User MFG/Vendor Premium Member

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    what do they use in your area, im guessing your from the area i was asking advice from
     
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    markxyz PSL + whatever Intermediate User Premium Member

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    I'm in Western New York. I've only been shot by NYSP - Prolaser, Ultralytes, and Marksman. I have seen a trooper playing with a TSS on the side of the road once. I'm not concerned about them either. No Dragon guns, as of yet, which is why I haven't upgraded my system.
     
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    Lidar use is not that common in the Indy area IME. I do not even run parking sensors and I drive through Carmel almost every day. So I am a little bit surprised to read that he has had two lidar tickets in such a short time period. Having said that, there was a news story about two guys who got busted for doing 120 in a construction zone on I-69, and lidar was used to tag one of them. If you watch the video in the news link, you can see the Stalker lidar. It would be helpful to know where, and from what agency, he got the lidar tickets. If he doesn't want you to share that information in a public forum, please send me the information in a private message.

    The few times I've seen lidar in this area, it has been either LTI Tru-Speed or Kustom Pro Lite. The video the news story is the first time I've seen a Stalker lidar. I hope this isn't an emerging trend!

    GTO_04
     
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    @Vman i think this member might be able to help you.

    @GTO_04 he's on here now. i'll text him and let him know, thank you
     
  8. DrHow

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    I am very close by, north side of Indy. I have a spare set (not yet installed in 2nd car) of ZW5 heads we could see how they would mount. No, not ALP, get that. Could be used to see how cutting the grill would look (like idea above of using replacement OEM or fake OEM grill to have as spare or use to cut up). Also see how they fit in the gap between hood and grill.

    Only once so far have I had Carmel and Fishers use their laser using a defense system. The ZW alerted just fine, was not pulled over. But, I was not really going much if any over limit. And I did not stop to ask how the ZW5 stationary hazardous traffic sensor worked. :) they were both small hand held units, size of very small old digital camcorder from what I could see. The cosine angle I bet cut at least 5-6mph off actual speed. Both were not head on shoots, at a angle from side of road. Carmel unit hid off 116th beteeen Meridian and Keystone. Fishers location was over hill on 126th just east/past I69 overpass.

    Anyone around here with spare ALP heads?
     
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    Reporter footage looks shot right by Brook School road over pass. If that is the general area where they clocked the two cars, very dangerous to be going over 100-120. When I travel up that direction for business in nother part of state, I see way too many drivers looking like they are late for their next part time job time slot, going way too fast for conditions.

    One reason why I got laser protection this year (never had before), the expanded use by ISP, county, and local of laser systems. And, as I noted prior comment in another post, the expanded use of K band close to BSM frequencies is growing by the day. Yesterday running I65 north of Indy, both going and coming back, non ISP (non state patrol) were running K band 24.128. Fishers are notorious for running K band right around Honda, and if memory serves me, Pacifica fequencies.
     
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    Fortunately I don't spend much time on SR37/I-69. It's just perpetual gridlock nowadays. That is good to know about Fishers running K band. I had not seen that in awhile. They run the Kustom Pro Lite. They will hit people from behind. My old V1 1.7 nailed it, the only RD that has any rear laser detection capability. If anyone is going to get parking sensors and drive in Indiana, do it right and get rear heads too!

    My biggest threats are Carmel and Westfield PD setting up their traps on US31. You can count on WPD hiding under the 161st Street bridge almost every day with 34.7 Ka. Carmel has lidar but rarely use it on 31. They much prefer to use their Kustom 35.5 and Stalker Dual radars.

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    Thanks for the technical detail for our local. K is getting wicked in Fishers. 30% estimate of devices I run into. Plus the state and county between just south of Lafayette/Dayton IN (I65) running holding pattern ticket attacks with K only. Mixed in with out at the edge construction bot speed warning signs running K. The V1 and ER handle that well, including Honda, Buick, Audi, whatever BSM staying silent

    Yea, year or so ago, figured out someone, me or right beside me in left lane going faster, got laser from behind (alert from V1). Funny, I saw the blue Explorer long before going by. Kinda obvious to most. Yet, hit from rear anyway. That SUV now runs ER products, mostly m360 or EX (and recent front only ZW5). Do not think ER stuff would have picked up from “rear” windshield based RD laser sensor. Beginning of this year, running combo V1 and EX (yes, from radar standpoint not best idea due to interference), had one naked no parking distance help laser attack where the EX beat the V1 for alert (laser has no interference issues beteeen RD). I think it was a angled scatter from vehicle in front. Or bad aim reflected my way. I was impressed. A earlier “you have been nailed” alert.
     
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    I've seen Carmel cops about a half dozen times shooting laser on northbound 31, between 465 and the Keystone exit. Usually weekends (Sundays). They hide in the shadows under the overpasses but are usually well marked on Waze. Only once did I catch a shot in my direction with my ALP but I was not the target. It was an LTI Tru-Speed (alert with visual confirmation). But like I said, WAZE had them marked every time I've seen them using LASER. They also use 35.5 and that has been while moving so no WAZE.
     
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    That is good to know! I am rarely on 31 on the weekends, so that would explain why a rarely see lidar. A few mornings I have seen them hiding under bridges in their Interceptor Utilities (aka Explorer) and no radar signals were being emitted at all. My first thought is that they were just using very selective I/O. But now I am wondering if they weren't using lidar. However all their windows were rolled up and none of them were standing outside their vehicle. During the times you encountered lidar, were they standing outside their vehicle? Could they be using mirror shots?

    Carmel PD still uses 35.5, but the use of 34.7 is much more common now, and that is a good thing. Once in awhile, ISP will set up under the 106th Street bridge with 35.5 and often they will use I/O. One of CPD's favorite tactics is to use forward facing 35.5 and 34.7 (mostly C/O) from the entrance ramps and it would be very difficult to see them. CPD is the biggest threat I face almost every day, with Westfield (just north of Carmel) a close second. If you are driving through that area, just assume WPD will be hiding under the 161st street bridge (around the 131 mile marker) running 34.7 Ka. They have Interceptor Utilities, Tahoes (both marked AND unmarked) and Chargers. WPD uses a combination of I/O and C/O. They have two Mustang GTs but I have not seen them on 31 very often. They have a dark grey and a black GT. I have never seen them run lidar.

    You won't see the Hamilton County Sheriff run traffic enforcement on 31 until you get north of 216th street.

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    @Bossdad71 I just did an install. I'll post up a pic if you need one
     
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    @Andrew21 yes please
     
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    @Andrew21 man brother thats a nice instal great job
     
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    We need someone to come out here, or already in Midwest to get some work done for us. :)

    Nice work on the @Andrew21 Lexus deployment and testing.
     
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