What is behind the TMG diode/receiver lense cover?

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  1. Jag42

    Jag42 TXCTG RD tester /US exclusive TMG dealer. Advanced User MFG/Vendor Premium Member

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    Many have asked me what it looks like behind the lense cover. I removed the replaceable lense cover to show you guys. It looks pretty stealth with no lense covers, I might remove all mine.

    @Vortex
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    Lense design could change in final production. 20180625_205130.jpg

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    thanks for all the fish Advanced User Acceptus Premium Member

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    How about a few test runs without the lens covers?
     
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    speed3 Premium Member Beginner User Premium Member

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    Won't that make the device not work correctly? Without the lens to focus and spread the light, I don't see how it would ever work correctly.
     
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    Freebird Poking the bears. Advanced User Premium Member

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    Put your covers back on and send them to me. We need to get some testing done on my motorcycle. Strictly for Marketing and the Business model and such lol
     
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    Andrew21 "All Blade, All The Time" Administrator Advanced User Premium Member

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    I can remove mine when we test the new firmware coming out soon.
     
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    Freebird Poking the bears. Advanced User Premium Member

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    What is the covers purpose other than protecting the internals? Maybe filter incoming laser for less falsing etc? Damn I am such a Newb with sensor tech. I need to read up in that section of our forum.
     
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    I wouldn't reccomend running the sensors without covers. Simple contaminats such as dust will wreak havoc on the internals and the performance will likely be significantly reduced. Remember, those bubbles are there for a reason!!
     
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    omgboost Left Lane Hog Security Attaché Advanced User Premium Member

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    Those bubbles look nasty though. It looks like it grew two nipples.
     
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  9. The Only Sarge

    The Only Sarge 7 decades of hauling ass Advanced User

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    You kill the range/sensitivity by running without the lenses.
     
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    Sarge mentioned that you could run these horizontally or vertically (90 degrees) if you had a vertically slotted grill (like BMWs).

    1. Does it matter (probably so) if the diodes are up or down? Could you run this at 180 or 270 degrees normal placement?

    2. Can it be run at any other angles? Is the dispersion of the diodes specific to right angles or is it equal? I asked because at 30 degrees from horizontal, my grill would require a lot less cutting if the heads didn’t have to be horizontal side to side. I can see how they would still have to be level front to back, but even that sounds somewhat not as critical with the TMG heads versus bang on horizontal and level required with other three letter parking sensors.

    I should be able to install either way but just off horizontal would be 100% easier.

    I know some people swear by (not at) Sugru. Thoughts?

    No rush and Thanks.


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  11. Jag42

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    Sugru works wonders. I will forward this to @Ming
     
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    Sugru works wonders. The purpose of the covers is not only to keep contaminats out, but theres filters in there to eliminate false alarms, likely Faraday shields or something of that magnitude
     
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    Now next step, what is behind cover cover... :D
     
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    let me see if I can do this for you guys. I'll check back
     
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    Faraday Cage, Diode
     
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    Secret sauce.


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    Hopefully a PCB with a urethane conformal coating to reduce the likelihood of head failure resulting from moisture penetration if/when the weather seal eventually breaks down and fails. Something that I've gathered is often caused by pressure washers and continued exposure to the elements.

    An example of a urethane coated/encapsulated circuit board:
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  18. Jag42

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    They test them in fish tanks
     
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    Can they swim too ??


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    What kind of guns do the fish have??? FishEye?
     
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