Pronunciation of Ford’s “Eco-“

Discussion in 'Car Discussion' started by Deacon, Jun 16, 2018.

How do you pronounce “Eco” in “EcoBoost” and “EcoSport” etc?

  1. EEK-oh

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  1. Deacon

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    People think of forced induction designs as small displacement. Really they’re just variable displacement. They can get plenty big when the fins get to spinning.
     
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    Right?! When I go to pass someone I always have to make sure I got two hands on the wheel no matter what speed I'm at. 2020 version should be RWD.

    To the OP not another Ecobeast bashing thread...
     
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    Well I saw a commercial last night for that new small suv/cross over type thing and they definitely said “echo”. The EcoSport I think? But definitely called it “echo.”
     
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    Yes because that's the typical daily drive for everyone, driving through mountain passes towing 10,000 pound trailers... :rolleyes:
     
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    Have you ever driven up at that altitude? If you have anything less than 400HP at sea level, driving the NA up there is painful even if you aren't towing anything!
     
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    Turbos are awesome in the right applications and not so good in the wrong ones.

    Turbos add more complexity to an engine. More complexity means less reliability than the same engine in a N/A configuration. This is pretty indisputable from an engineering perspective.

    Turbos add heat. Heat is a natural enemy of the IC engine. If you are going to be into boost continually (towing application) they need a robust and efficient system to cool the intake charge and the exhaust gasses. This adds more complexity.

    For a GAS towing application, I'd say to look elsewhere. For a diesel engine that's actually designed to detonate, this works better but for a gas engine, and pump gas, the heat buildup can be too much when towing. The problem is that turbos chooch because of both the velocity of exhaust gas and the heat of it. More load = more heat = more choo choo. When you are towing, you a have an increased load. This extra heat can end up over expanding a compression ring and breaking off a ring land or just melting the piston due to detonation if the intake charge is too hot. Quite a few eco-boost engines have suffered from this.

    When a turbo system is properly designed, it can allow the best of both worlds from an efficiency perspective in the right application. Under no boost and low boost, the fuel efficiency is pretty much that of a N/A engine. Under boost, you get the extra HP that cramming more air and fuel into the engine can provide.


    But the best is throwing turbos on LARGE displacement engines, IMHO. You get all the low end torque and boost up top. I love the 6.0L gas engine that I turboed!
     
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    You don't have to tell me, my 148HP piece of crap was at 6000RPM most of the way up into the cascades last time I drove through there. If you're towing much through the mountains I'd say get a turbodiesel, which is going to be more reliable than any gas engine anyway as long as you delete some of the dumb ass EPA emissions bs.
     
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    Bit of water/methanol injection should sort all of those heat issues ;).
     
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    Till you run out. :D
    I like me some E85.
     
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    A five gallon tank should last you quite awhile (depending on how heavy that foot is lol) and methanol is available at any gas station.

    Definitely would prefer E85... I wish that was available where I live!
     
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    Luckily I have a lot of stations in my area that have it, way more than have 93. Only 3 of them sell it for the right price though. I converted my N/A SS to flex fuel because it's actually a lot cheaper for me to run E85, even considering the increased consumption and it's almost impossible for me to find 93 octane anymore.
     
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    I call it Ford Echo since this is what you will be hearing when you are stranded in the middle of a barren canyon.
     
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    That's what I love when I moved from NM/PHX to East cost...the ability to have a 93 and 94 Octane fuel as opposed to 90 or 91 POS. One of my cars is a turbo and honestly I can feel the difference with 93/94 octane.

    I used to use toulene that I would buy at Ace hardware once every month just to keep the Octane up. So Toulene has 114 Octane rating, my gas tank is 15 gallons and the gas pump has 91 Octane so to achieve 93 Octane rating I would need 1.1 gallons of Toulene: ((14*91) + (1.1*114))/15=93.3
     
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    You guys seen this torture test they did on the 3.5EB--this vid has several test all in one!

     
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    I guess they forgot to do similar testing to Focus RS engine, seeing all the blown headgaskets from owners who were unlucky enough to receive their cars with wrong gaskets installed :D

    In all seriousness, Ford makes pretty nice cars and I can't wait to test drive new Ranger once it'll be out here in 'murica. I drove the similar offerings from Toyota and GMC and they were pretty meh - seats were pretty uncomfortable on both of them (but especially on Toyota, with the seats where you can't even adjust the height), GM still can't add a ****ing "engine start" button for some reason and Toyota had pretty crappy, sluggish 6-speed A/T (and ****ty entertainment system without basic features like Android Auto).
     
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    Why would you actually want an engine start button? I hate engine start buttons. Just another worthless over complication. Why should I have to long press for 5 Seconds to get into the accessory position when with a key I can just turn it to the accessory position? I got an engine start button in my Chevy SS and I'm not a fan.
     
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    It is a matter of convenience. On my current car (Outback) I keep the car key in the pocket, on the very bottom of it and NEVER have to take it out. I wish I could do the same with house keys, unfortunately the door to our house has a custom lock system and won't fit any aftermarket solutions (gotta change whole door with its frame)... Plus there's less chance of **** going wrong (granted the GM has fixed the issue, but the button would've completely prevented that): mobile.nytimes.com: G.M. Recalls Camaros to Replace Faulty Keys

    As for getting into "acc" mode - it takes about a second to double-press the "Start" button on my car to go into that mode, so it's never been an issue for me.
     
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    I absolutely love the Audi press to start system. Leave the key in my pocket. Never comes out. You want ACC mode? Press the button without holding the brake. Easy. You want to start it? Press the button while holding the brake. Easy.

    Only thing on that car I don’t like is you have to apply the brake to shift from Neutral to Drive. Annoying when pulling out of a car wash or whatever where you’re in N and just want to drop it into D to pull through.
     
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    Sure, push start is easy and convenient. I like that part of it. Like I said, my problem is that with my particular application I have to press the button and wait 5 seconds with my foot off the brake to go to accessory mode. That sucks when you're trying to program the ECM.

    I'm also really worried about what happens if the button malfunctions or what happens if I have to turn the car off in an emergency. Even if it was a switch instead of a button it would be more reliable in my opinion.

    I wonder what happens when my key fob battery runs out too . I know it says I can put it in the little cubby hole and it should read it but I can't bring myself to trust that.

    Anyway, to each their own, I can't stand my electric parking brake in that car either.
     
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    They also cost an arm and a leg when they break.

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