Important lesson to RD newbies: listen to your RD

LeftLaneInPA

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Are you new to the world of radar detectors? Well, sit down and listen to your old Uncle LeftLaneInPA. He has a story for you.

Yesterday, I was driving through the Lehigh Valley area in Pennsylvania on PA-22 going Eastbound. Before that I was on the Northeast Extension of the PA Turnpike (I-476). Both roads have several areas littered with those "YOUR SPEED IS" traffic signs that use K-band radar, and they're usually arranged in clusters on both sides of the highway. So you'll get multiple hits as you detect both several signs in front of you and those on the opposite side of the road that are now behind you, but facing you.

So, I've been getting rather jaded to multiple K-signal alerts at once on this trip. And I'm familiar with PA-22, but not intimately so. I go down that highway maybe once or twice a month.

I'm heading eastbound on PA-22 and I know I'm heading towards a "cluster" of "YOUR SPEED IS" signs on both sides of the road. My radar detector setup is a Valentine One paired to a Android smartphone running the excellent JBV1 application.

>*beep beep* "K-Band ahead".
Ho-hum.
>*beep beep* "K-Band behind. Two bogies."
Another one of those annoying signs, on the westbound side.
>*beep beep* "K-Band ahead. Three bogies."
Yeah, yeah, I know. There's another sign up the road.
>*beep beep* "K-Band behind. Four bogies."
(looks to left) Yup. Another sign.
>*beep beep* "K-Band ahead. Five bogies."
(yawn)

I wasn't yawning shortly after that, just as I spotted the PA State Police trooper who was driving an Explorer in one of the new harder-to-see charcoal-gray coloring schemes. He had backed all the way into a cluster of trees on the side of the road and I didn't spot him until we were literally at a 90-degree angle. Luckily for me, I was going flow-of-traffic speeds (65 MPH in a 45 MPH zone), but if I was going any faster I would have been toast. He was obviously using the "cover" from the K-Band "YOUR SPEED IS" signs to mask his signal.

The moral of the story is: don't discount any signals unless you are absolutely sure you know what the source is, and don't let hubris make you unaware.

Stay alert!
Trust no one!
Keep your radar detector handy!
 

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There's a spot near where I live where a cop also likes to use the sign as cover. The sign is right after the speed limit changes from 35 to 25 and he has a perfect spot to hide because you can't see him until you are right on top of him.
 

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There's a spot near where I live where a cop also likes to use the sign as cover. The sign is right after the speed limit changes from 35 to 25 and he has a perfect spot to hide because you can't see him until you are right on top of him.
They know the spot that produce the most beacon thanks to sophisticated trap.
 

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No doubt. In my area, I don't see K band (even though it's still in our state). So, I've become very desensitized to K band. Traveling to the beach, I almost got my butt handed to me because I completely ignored an alert.
 

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Almost got burnt by this before a couple times. Luckily I noticed the frequency change on K band enough to realize and know that spot up ahead was a common one.

Radar detectors are great when you can use them to their full potential.

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A number of years ago I got off the interstate onto a major local road and my V1 indicates 7 bogies behind. This area usually has no falses. Obviously, I set cruise slightly below PSL. About 2 miles ahead stopped for a traffic light a sheriff car and 6 motorcycle units pull up. No problem thanks to V1 with the arrows and bogey counter.
 

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Did you say 90 degrees? If the radar unit was mounted front/rear I don't believe it would be possible for him to clock you. Nonetheless, great advice for newcomers.
 

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The vehicle was at 90 degrees, but PSP Troopers use hand-held units. They're not vehicle-mounted.
 

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Now you know why I was so annoyed by those traffic monitor radar units set up on I-79 and I-80 two weeks ago. There could have been a Trooper anywhere along that route that could have blended into the radar noise they were producing.
 

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Sounds like rolling under the MacArthur Rd (RT 145) on 22EB...nice 'your speed is" sign there. Was the PSP in the trees by the entrance ramp coming off RT 378/Schoenersville Rd? That whole stretch of 22 EB and WB is a K band party with all of the construction going on. Even now on RT33 SB at the 22 intersection, PSL is 45 with a speed sign. With summer making its way in, many local/rural towns and villages are putting speed signs up...especially on many of our back country roads with PSL 45-55.
 

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