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I'll be taking several trips on the PA pike to and from the Midwest soon. I'm currently equipped with a Uniden R1 and an old Blinder M-27, though I hope to install an ALP system soon.

Over 30 years I've never encountered laser on the PA turnpike. Enforcement was strictly radar, thought I don't recall which bands.

Radar was fixed and rolling, I/O and continuous, using marked and unmarked cars and trucks. They often hide around curves, bridge abutments, and other obstructions.

I've seen them use pickup trucks and a Camero.,I've always been shot in front shots, not from the rear.

Can anyone add anything, or update these thoughts?

What radar bands are in use on the Tpk? Are they using laser now?

Thanks much!
 

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From my last couple trips though I recall seeing mostly KA band, off the highway I recall there being Kband as well. Didn't run into any laser personally. Waze is also a good idea as it's generally got enough users to be helpful.
 

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...and scanners are useless in the Keystone state. So my R1, Waze and CB will be key.
 

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State police use both k and Ka band. I don't think they are allowed lidar guns. Vascar is a danger a well. I don't think they can use radar while moving.
 

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State police use both k and Ka band. I don't think they are allowed lidar guns. Vascar is a danger a well. I don't think they can use radar while moving.
There appear to be so few opportunities for a rolling radar pinch due to the nearly continuous medial Jersey barrier.

I did get pinched by stationary radar a few years back. He was waiting just beyond a viaduct at a cloverleaf. It was an I/O situation.
 

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Pennsylvania is strictly only K band. Local or state police. Vascar,Timing device and Enradd watch out for.
 

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On the turnpike you will be dealing exclusively with PA State Police. Unsure of the legality of locals patrolling the TP but have never encountered it in ~15 years.

To my knowledge PSP run exclusively K-band. There have been disputed rumors for years on whether they also use Ka. You will encounter plenty of Ka (in addition to K) from speed & construction signs that spit radar but I have never had a Ka hit from a PA LEO. You can leave Ka on if you wish but you run the risk of a false Ka signal covering a real K-band one. No LIDAR whatsoever in PA and all radar is stationary-only per state law.

Their K-band units are typically calibrated to 24.125. Anything between 24.100 and 24.160 is a potential threat. VASCAR and ENRADD are possible threats but unlikely - they are typically only used by locals. They used to use aircraft enforcement way back in the day but haven't seen it in years.

The vast majority of PSP cruisers these days are Tauruses and Explorers, both marked and unmarked. I believe the Crown Vic is now extinct around here but it's possible you may come across one.

IMO Waze is about 75% reliable in PA. Let me know if you have any other questions!
 
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As others have stated, K band- stationary mode. You'll run into them hovering in the median from time to time. But their specialty is hiding on the shoulder behind a billboard or an overpass. They will watch from their side view mirror and pick you off with their antenna mounted on the side of the car. Be wary of that. Waze is your friend!
 

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On the turnpike you will be dealing exclusively with PA State Police. Unsure of the legality of locals patrolling the TP but have never encountered it in ~15 years.

To my knowledge PSP run exclusively K-band. There have been disputed rumors for years on whether they also use Ka. You will encounter plenty of Ka (in addition to K) from speed & construction signs that spit radar but I have never had a Ka hit from a PA LEO. You can leave Ka on if you wish but you run the risk of a false Ka signal covering a real K-band one. No LIDAR whatsoever in PA and all radar is stationary-only per state law.

Their K-band units are typically calibrated to 24.125. Anything between 24.100 and 24.160 is a potential threat. VASCAR and ENRADD are possible threats but unlikely - they are typically only used by locals. They used to use aircraft enforcement way back in the day but haven't seen it in years.

The vast majority of PSP cruisers these days are Tauruses and Explorers, both marked and unmarked. I believe the Crown Vic is now extinct around here but it's possible you may come across one.

IMO Waze is about 75% reliable in PA. Let me know if you have any other questions!
As others have stated, K band- stationary mode. You'll run into them hovering in the median from time to time. But their specialty is hiding on the shoulder behind a billboard or an overpass. They will watch from their side view mirror and pick you off with their antenna mounted on the side of the car. Be wary of that. Waze is your friend!
Thanks for the intel. I have a new R1, my first programmable RD, and knowing the bands and freqs is super helpful.
 

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State Police are the only ones who enforce on the Turnpike, and as others have said use K. So do the construction signs, drone speed signs, and the Honda/Acura and Buick BSMs. So it can be a bit annoying at times paying attention to all those K alerts.

PA State Troopers are highly trained in hiding and using instant on. They are really good at it! As others have said be aware of abutments, overpasses, bends, and breaks/overlaps in the privacy/sound barriers just off the shoulder. They creep behind them all the time and without radar, you won't see them until it's too late. Pay attention to the rabbits slamming their brakes and you will be good!

Safe travels!
 

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Always have a rabbit to follow. Only way to defend against I/O Do not put yourself out in front of the pack.

If you are patient, There should be someone willing to go faster then you. Don't ruin you trip by getting Tagged.
 
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PA PSP generally run in white vehicles with black & gold markings on the sides but I've also seen a new color--flat grey Ford Interceptors in my area. As others have said, they are VERY good with I/O shots hiding near bridges, abutments, overpasses, and bends and breaks just off the shoulders. Waze in conjunction with the RD of your choice + using a rabbit is solid advice to help anywhere I'd have to imagine but in particular due to the way PSP employs the techniques just described.
 

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PASP also started using low power K band. Very little to no ramp up, and sometimes only appears as a blip. Be wary!
The Redline does a pretty good job of sniffing these out, however with any less powerful detector I'd be wary. Also FYI PSP generally won't bother you unless you're doing PSL+15 or more.
 

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Saw two of the flat gray with blue-gray markings interceptors on my travels yesterday. One was definitely near junction of 99 and 80 (so not on PA TP, but I would second the new color scheme to watch for). He was in the median running C/O K. I have seen both C/O and I/O on 80 and 78...haven't traveled the TP as much lately.

Safe travels.
 

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Here is a new one: Today I was hit by K band from an Olive colored Charger with blacked out windows sitting PA Turnpike westbound Mile 350 just west of the Interchange 351, Bensalem, on ramp. PSL 70MPH.
 

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Anything new I should be on the lookout for? Planning to head up I-70 through Breezewood, continuing on 76 west into Ohio.
 

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Anything new I should be on the lookout for? Planning to head up I-70 through Breezewood, continuing on 76 west into Ohio.
Just got back from the trip yesterday and noted a much lower than normal enforcement level in both OH and PA. Granted I hadn't been on this route for a few years.

Just FYI for anyone else interested.
 

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