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  1. kpriv

    kpriv Learning to Drive General User

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    Hi, I was referred to this forum from a couple folks knowledgeable about CMs -- they had very good things to say so here I am. Below is my first question to try and soak up the knowledge of you folks in the know -- is it best to post this in the "how to ask for a recommendation thread"

    I've been doing some research on this forum and would love to solicit any opinions / suggested modifications to my plan. Thanks in advance for any help

    1. What kind of vehicle you have and do you want a remote or a windshield mount? 2016 audi; slight preference for remote, but could go with windshield if meaningful cost savings
    2. What's your budget? Ideally less than $2500, but based on priced out ALP I would be willing to go higher if warranted
    3. Where you live ( address not needed of course) and what states , country or areas you primarily drive? ( this is essential) Almost exclusively drive in Los Angeles and Ventura counties.
    4. How you drive? Generally drive within 5mph of PSL on city roads, but would love to be able to open it up on freeways / canyon roads when there is no traffic.
    5. What your daily drive is like (short trips? long trips? city? highway?) we ask this because of falsing issues that exist in many areas or cities. 30 mile hwy commute each way on 101 and PCH (to LAX).
    6. How long you have been using countermeasures, if at all? not at all
    7. Are there curves, hills, obstructions or is the area flat as a pancake. lots of curves, hills, etc
    8. Are there Redlight cams/speed cams in your area and do you need / prefer a GPS enabled unit? no strong knowledge or opinion.
    9. Thanks to ahl: "Are you willing/do you want to use your phone to pair with the RD?" and "What kind of device do you own (iOS/Android)". There is Escort LIVE and droid only YaV1 for the V1 apps one can use to adjust their RD. There is also V1 Driver in the ios APP Store for V1 users who wish to use an Apple device. ** Note that many of these apps allow you to use the APP (either droid or Apple) to readjust your settings for the V1. Escort Live allows you to do this as well on Escort products that are LIVE compatible. I have an old smart phone I could dedicate if needed (assuming you just need BT connection and not cell). Also, I have heard mid city engineering makes an integration system that connects the setup to your steering wheel controls.

    Long story short, I have priced out the ALP + DSP front and rear. It is spendy, but if a great setup for my situation it may be worth it. Specific questions about that setup:

    - for a full size sedan in california, do I need 3 ALP front and rear (2x RX and 1x TX)?
    - I presume I'd need / want F&R DSP if I'm doing the laser install anyway

    As an alternative, I know of someone who recently purchased the new escort CI 360 with integrated radar and zw5 laser shifters. I searched for comparisons / reviews of the new escort laser shifters and couldn't find any.

    In any event, I would love any opinions / recommendations on a preferred setup for my situation.
     
  2. milkman

    milkman Premium Member Advanced User Acceptus Premium Member

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    welcome to the forum
     
  3. Got Jeep

    Got Jeep Be Prepared Intermediate User Premium Member

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    Welcome from Michigan. The many from CA can chime in on the best setup for your area.
     
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    Welcome to RDF!

    ALP is definitely the way to go for Laser, if nothing else the have a better track record for keeping things current and providing updates as needed to keep your defense optimal. since you are in CA, you wont likely need K band on, as CHP is all KA band, this opens up more options if you wanted to do windshield mount. if you did want to save a little money and don't require directional radar alert, then you can install only one NR antenna, you will still get plenty of range front and back, (less so to the back of course, and you wont have directional info to know exactly where it is coming from) or for additional savings consider the Uniden R1 (or R3 if you want to have better K band false quieting options if you travel out of CA) if you do want directional info then you are probably best with the NR setup though. As far as number of laser sensors, CA doesn't have the really tough VPR guns in the wild yet, that said they do things like overpass shots. the TX head has a wider coverage angle for better protection from off axis and overpass shots, so optimal would be two RX and a TX up front, you could get by with three RX if you had to, but it's not that much more for the one TX so I'd go for it, be a shame to get a laser ticket after installing all this right? Haven't heard of rear laser shots in CA personally, but the folks out there might know more if you need rear sensors.
     
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    thanks for all the fish Advanced User Acceptus Premium Member

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    Welcome to RDF! Thanks for joining and being part of the community!
    I suggest you create a new post in the right subforum to get the best exposure and replies!

    Glad you are taking your time to do your research!




    Posted from my RD
     
  6. omgboost

    omgboost Left Lane Hog Security Attaché Advanced User Premium Member

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    Does CA not have locals doing speed enforcement? I see it all the time where you only need Ka band for CA. Or do locals only use KA as well?
     
  7. kpriv

    kpriv Learning to Drive General User

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    Thank you for the quick response! At the suggestion of tphank, I created a new post in the radar sub-forum. www.rdforum.org: New CM setup recommendation in california

    However, if easier to respond here, my quick follow up is:
    Does this mean that CHP does not use laser at all? If so, that is good news. I have heard of local ventura county sheriffs using laser, and maybe I confused that with CHP. I guess the nut of the question is, do I need to be concerned about rear laser shots from a LEO sitting on an on-ramp or CHP behind me on the freeway, or is that almost always going to be Ka?

    If I could get away with only installing ALP + NR up front, that would vastly simplify my install (I'll be DIYing) and keep cost right in the ballpark. If this is a good option that leaves me well protected I'm all in. That said, I don't want to be penny wise and pound foolish so if this might fall into that category I'll have to digest a bit. Thank you!
     
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    Welcome to the forum!
     
  9. thebravo

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    CHP definitely does use laser, quite a bit actually, maybe more than radar in places. As far as radar they only use KA band supposedly, no K band. K band has a lot of pollution from automatic door openers, and car blindspot monitoring systems, so if you are in an area where K band is still used by LEO's then you have to get a RD with good filtering and usually want a GPS based detector for low speed muting and lockouts to help reduce false K band alerts, if you don't have K band then you can just turn off K band altogether and you could then skip the GPS based detectors (I.E. Uniden R3) and go with something a little cheaper (I.E. Uniden R1) So if cost was really the factor, I'd probably go ALP 2 RX and 1 TX and a Uniden R1, however if you are going with ALP adding the DSP Netradar will give you about the same performance as the R1 and then it's all integrated which is nice. adding the second rear Netradar DSP antenna adds a little extra range to the rear and gives you arrows so you can tell if the Leo is ahead or behind you easily, which is nice, not required but nice.

    I'm sure more folks will chime in with more specific on CA so you can have some local info :)
     
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