Feature request - startup tones

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  1. danham

    danham Learning to Drive General User

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    It would be great if there was a way in V1Driver to hear the V1's startup tones. This would fix a problem I have which is not caused by V1Driver, but by my Bluetooth setup.

    My Sena 20S helmet radio requires that the volume be set individually for each function. This is a plus in that you can set separate levels for music, radar alerts, intercom, GPS directions, or phone calls. But it's a royal pain sometimes because the function has to be active to set its volume. On a motorcycle, reaching for the volume knob on the Sena during a real radar alert is not a great strategy, especially if you are trying to slow down rapidly by down-shifitng instead of lighting up the brake lights in "I'm guilty" mode. Worse, after a Sena firmware update, all volumes revert to a low level, so I nearly missed an alert today.

    If the V1 startup test tones could be sent through V1Driver, that would allow setting the volume while still parked.

    Thanks,

    -dan
     
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    If you have Sound enabled it produces the same tones the V1 would when V1Driver connects. That is part of the purpose of the Voice "V1Driver" and the start up tones to test your audio path.
    You can also add a delay of the startup stuff.
     
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    Couldn’t you turn V1 off and on while parked with power on?
     
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    No, you don't have that control and it wouldn't route to his helmet any way. He's just trying to get his volumes set right at start up.
     
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    danham Learning to Drive General User

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    Interesting. Thanks. I've never heard the V1Driver voice, but that is because my order of startup, which seems to be necessary for reliable Bluetooth, is iPhone on first, then LE dongle power up, then V1, then GPS, then Sena. The key is Sena last, so by the time it fires up any voice telling me I'm connected is long gone. I'm going to try a 30-second delay.

    Unfortunately, the handiest circuit on my bike for powering the dongle is one that stays hot for 60 seconds after the key is off, so it would be a pain to power cycle the dongle. Would power cycling just the V1 cause the voice to announce connection? I think I already tried that and it doesn't.

    Thanks again for the help.

    -dan
     
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    Your dongle and V1 shouldn’t be on different circuits. They should use the same hardware power adapter, which means both get power at the same time. Never had a problem that way.
     
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    danham Learning to Drive General User

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    They are on the same circuit, via the V1 power adapter, which goes live with the key, then stays on for 60 seconds after key-off. It’s designed for GPS use.

    It would be easier if I could switch the V1 off at its knob to test the audio rather than shut off the bike and wait.

    -dan
     
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    Then how are you powering on the BTLE first before the V1? Manually turning the knob on the V1?
     
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    I think he is just implying V1 finishes “powering up” after Dongle. Even though they both got power simultaneously.
     
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    Ah, maybe.
     
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    Apologies; I was less than clear. For successful Bluetooth, I need to power up my Sena 20S last, after the dongle/V1 and the GPS and my iPhone (which is already on anyway). The Sena then announces what it is successfully paired to. For BT reliability, it does not make any difference if the V1 comes on at the same time or later than the dongle. The only reason I brought it up is that it would be a simple test if I could power the V1 off, then back on, using its knob, and hear those startup tones in my helmet.

    I have not had a chance to test the V1Driver delay function, but if it works that should do the trick.

    -dan
     
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    Does the Sena system just act as a Bluetooth headset or earphones? V1/dongle shouldn’t matter as it’s only BTLE and separate from the Sena. I’m not sure about the GPS as I use Waze or Google Maps. Without the GPS it’s pretty much identical to what many thousands of others run with no issue.
     
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    The Sena 20S is a Bluetooth radio, with speakers mounted in my helmet. It pairs to various BT devices and as you note, it is operating that way with no issues.

    But BT pairing and power-up sequence can influence the reliability of the connection, especially with a Garmin GPS involved. For some reason, Garmin's implementation of BT is somewhat flaky and it can disconnect or distort or refuse to connect if you don't play by its "rules."

    None of this has prevented my setup from working and working well. But it does mean that powering up the Sena last, which produces the best results for working with the GPS and iPhone, eliminates the possibility of hearing the LE dongle announce that V1Driver is connected. I can take my phone out of my pocket and see on the screen that the connection is established, but that does not give me an audio level test. Not knowing about the delay function in V1Driver, I had to wait for a real radar alert and quickly spin the volume knob on the Sena while riding to bring up that audio channel, which due to a Sena firmware update had defaulted, unknown to me, to a very low setting.

    As soon as I get around to it, I will test the delay function in V1Driver, which may solve the whole (minor) problem.

    -dan
     
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    Cool, it sounds like the dedicated GPS device is the source of the issues, but the delay should take care of it.