Hi All, I'm new to the site. Like most I've been interested in purchasing a radar detector recently. Have been researching for days and reading lots of info on the subject. I'm aware of alp also for laser (expensive tho) . After stumbling across this site, I decided to join to ask some advice. I also seem to have fallen for the Uniden R1 and R3, until I read a few downsides to the laser detecting performance as stated in a thread. I've also been watching vortex vids and like how he doesn't discount other makes and models of detectors for various reasons a user may require, based on the operating scenario. Which is why I joined here, and wanted to run a scenario past you in regard to the R1 R3, or anything else for my area, as for me I am leaning away from this model slightly after reading about it. It sounds great but may not be the weapon of choice for me. Any advice appreciated. Here goes.... I drive in South Australia mainly. Police here use fixed red light and speeding cameras mainly at intersections or railway crossings (automatic operating). Location info of all of mounted cameras is easy available online, so this is no real issue (apps or the police website fixes this issue). Police also use mobile cameras mounted on the front of unmarked cars around the place to catch speeding motorists. These are also easy to locate using the police website, and detail where the 30 odd locations of cars will be on the day, but no info as to what time they operate in a particular position stated (leaves me to believe there are less cars than locations shown and gather they move them to various locations throughout the day and general scare tactics to control traffic flow). I occasionally find myself with my eyes looking in the rear view rather than on the road in most cases after passing a suspect camera car, which I feel is a bit unsafe even if you are not speeding, just to be sure. I'd like my eyes facing forward as much as possible, seeing as I'm driving that direction. I have insurance on the car but crash is worse than a fine in some cases. A detector (although illegal) would save alot of hassle and make for safer driving, as well as not having to mentally note or look at a list on my phone while driving of 30 odd streets a day (as cam locations are constantly changing daily to different areas) so I don't "cop out" or crash and then "cop out" from looking backwards instead of forwards. An alert would be nice if you forget the camera location basically, which is the one main purpose of me wanting a detector, rather than wanting to rip around town at 100kmph everywhere. Police are also using speed detection devices mounted to cars on highway patrol I believe, and also laser is still used, but does not seem to be as frequent unless on the highway or country roads, as long high speed roads seem to suit this style better. We also have number plate recognition now in effect for registration checks built into cop cars apparantly too. Hope this kinda lays out the basic scenario so far. Info I've found (although how up to date it is I've no idea) is located below. Any relevant info to South Australia is my main interest, but some might like the extra reading out of pure interest.... Western Australia Type of Device Device Name Frequency Handheld – Laser LTI Truspeed SE 905 nm Handheld – Laser LTI Ultralyte Compact 904 nm Vehicle Mounted – Radar Raptor RP-1 24.125 GHz or 35.100 GHz Vehicle Mounted – Radar Falcon HR 24.125 GHz Speed Camera – Laser Vitronic Poliscan 904 nm Fixed Red Light/Speed REDFLEXred-speed HDX N/A* Queensland Type of Device Device Name Frequency Handheld – Laser LTI Trucam 904 nm Vehicle Mounted – Radar Raptor RP-1 24.125 GHz or 35.100 GHz Speed Camera – Radar Jenoptik MultaRadar CD MTR CD – Frequency hopping Speed Camera – Laser Vitronic Poliscan 904 nm Speed Camera – P2P REDFLEX S103 N/A* Speed Camera – P2P REDFLEX P2P103 N/A* Speed Camera – P2P Jenoptik SR520 & SR590 N/A* Fixed Red Light/Speed REDFLEX SR101 & SR102 N/A* Fixed Red Light/Speed Gatso Millia GT 20 N/A* Fixed Red Light Gatso Mobile RLC GS N/A* New South Wales Type of Device Device Name Frequency Handheld – Laser Kustom Pro Laser III & IV 904 nm Handheld – Laser Kustom Pro Lite+ 904 nm Vehicle Mounted – Radar Kustom Eagle II 34.900 GHz Speed Camera – Radar Jenoptik TraffiStar S392M MTR CD – Frequency hopping Speed Camera – Laser Vitronics Poliscan 904 nm Speed Camera – P2P Jenoptik SR520 N/A* Speed Camera – P2P Senspeed PSP N/A* Fixed Red Light/Speed REDFLEXred 24.100 GHz Fixed Red Light/Speed REDFLEX SR102 N/A* Fixed Red Light/Speed REDFLEX M101 N/A* Fixed Red Light/Speed Gatso GTC GS11 N/A* Victoria Type of Device Device Name Frequency Handheld – Laser Kustom Pro Laser IV 904 nm Vehicle Mounted – Radar Stalker DSR 34.700 GHz Vehicle Mounted – Radar Kustom Eagle II 34.900 GHz Speed Camera – Laser Vitronics Poliscan 904 nm Speed Camera – Radar Gatso Meter LRC 24.125 GHz Fixed Red Light/Speed REDFLEXred-speed HDX N/A* South Australia Type of Device Device Name Frequency Handheld – Laser LTI Truspeed SE 905 nm Handheld – Laser LTI Ultralyte 100 904 nm Handheld – Radar Genesis VP 24.150 GHz or 35.100 GHz Vehicle Mounted – Radar Kustom KR 10-SP 24.150 GHz Speed Camera – Radar REDFLEXradarcam 24.100 GHz Speed Camera – P2P Jenoptik SR520 N/A* Speed Camera – P2P REDFLEX P2P103 N/A* Fixed Red Light/Speed REDFLEXred-speed HDX N/A* Northern Territory Type of Device Device Name Frequency Handheld – Laser LTI Ultralyte 20/20 100LR 904 nm Vehicle Mounted – Radar MPH Bee 111 33.800 GHz Tasmania Type of Device Device Name Frequency Handheld – Laser LTI Ultralyte 904 nm Vehicle Mounted – Radar Kustom KR 10-SP 24.150 GHz Speed Camera – Laser REDFLEXlasercam 904 nm Speed Camera – P2P Tess Digital Camera Unit N/A* Australian Capital Territory Type of Device Device Name Frequency Handheld – Laser LTI Ultralyte 20/20 100LR 904 nm Vehicle Mounted – Radar Kustom Eagle II 34.900 GHz Vehicle Mounted – Radar Stalker DSR 34.700 GHz Vehicle Mounted – Radar Raptor RP-1 24.125 GHz or 35.100 GHz Speed Camera – Radar Gatso Digital Radar 24.125 GHz Speed Camera – Laser Lasercam 2000 and NT 904 nm Speed Camera – Laser Vitronics Poliscan 904 nm Fixed Red Light/Speed Gatso Radar 24 24.125 GHz Fixed Red Light/Speed Centaur 2000 N/A* New Zealand Type of Device Device Name Frequency Handheld – Laser Kustom Pro Laser III 904 nm Vehicle Mounted – Radar Stalker Dual Radar 34.700 GHz Speed Camera – Radar REDFLEXradarcam 24.070 GHz Speed Camera – Radar REDFLEXspeed-radar 24.070 GHz * Fixed red light cameras and fixed speed cameras listed as N/A are either Point to Point or Road Inductor Sensor based systems. These systems do not produce a radar frequency and cannot be detected by a standard radar detector. Only radar/laser detectors with GPS integration can give advanced warning of these types of camera systems. They contain a GPS database of the location of these cameras and give advanced warning when approaching. & Mobile Speed Cameras Below is a list of speed measurement devices and traps used in each state. Next to each type of trap we have listed the type of device you would need to defend against each type of trap. Mobile Speed Camera Table: Western Australia Multanova / Vitronic Poliscan Ka / Laser New South Wales Traffipax K Victoria Gatso / Vitronic Poliscan K / Laser South Australia Traffipax K or Ka Queensland Gatso K Northern Territory Redflex LaserCam 904nm Laser Tasmania Redflex LaserCam 904nm Laser Australian Capital Territory Redflex LaserCam 904nm Laser Mobile Cameras In Summary: Gatso Mobile Speed Camera. This mobile camera is used primarily in Victoria and Queensland, and can be operated in various manners. Without a flash, the only evidence of speed camera on the outside of the car is black rectangular box, which sends out the radar beam (K band), about 30cm by 10, mounted on the front of the car. On the older models of the camera, and on rainy days or in bad light, a cable is used to link it to a box with a flash placed just in front of the vehicle. The operator sits in the car and takes the pictures, which are then uploaded to a laptop computer. In both states unmarked cars are used, although in Victoria the operation of the cameras is carried by a contractor from Tenix Solutions, in Queensland a uniformed police officer is the operator. Multanova Mobile Speed Camera. Used only in Western Australia, this radar-based camera (Ka 34.3 ghz) is mounted usually on a tripod on the side of the road. It is sometimes incorrectly referred to as a "Multinova". Multanovas are manufactured by a Swiss company of the same name and Western Australia utilises the 6F and the 9F models, which have a margin of +/-1km/h, however the Western Australian Police will give a 8km/h "grace" with a Multanova. The camera will photograph a speeding vehicle at an average distance of 12 metres. During the daytime, the Multanova unit uses a standard "white" flash, but in low light or night time, it will use a red flash to avoid dazzling the driver. The unit is estimated to be worth roughly $100 000, while the relatively small black box on the top, consisting of the circuitry and photographic unit, is worth $30,000 alone. The camera is always accompanied by a white station wagon manned by an un-sworn police officer (not a contractor) who is responsible for assembling and dissembling the unit, supervising it and operating the accompanying laptop in the car for the few hours that it is deployed at a location. There are currently 25 in circulation in Perth. NOTE: Multanova cameras are currently being phased out in favour of the more modern PoliScan laser-based speed cameras Vitronic PoliScan Mobile Camera. This laser-based or LIDAR system has two 4 megapixel digital cameras that photograph the driver, vehicle and license plate, before automatically reading the license plate using ANPR technology. Flash illumination for the cameras is provided by either a red or an infrared flash. Up to three lanes of traffic can be monitored simultaneously, while all vehicles travelling abreast or in tight formation can be tracked and caught. The system uses an automated back office software application to process digital evidence gathered by the camera, so there is no manual intervention required from the point of photographing a speeding motorist to the issuing of a fine. These cameras can take pictures from the front and/or rear. Redflex – LaserCam. Redflex’s LaserCam Speed Camera System combines digital image capture with highly accurate laser speed detection. The lasercam has a dual-lens image capture system which captures two images of an infringing vehicle concurrently; a wide angle lens captures an environmental image of the vehicle in its immediate surrounds and a telephoto lens captures a close-up image of the vehicle and its registration plate. This ensures effective identification of a targeted vehicle at all times. The system can be used in portable mode, with operator set-up taking only 2-3 minutes. REDFLEX LaserCam can also be quickly mounted inside a vehicle for covert use if required. REDFLEX LaserCam can be manually used to target vehicles, or the system can be set up in automatic mode. So... When looking at detectors, I understand laser gun detection is somewhat pointless to an extent, as once it alerts its likely the po po have a reading already. However, I'd personally prefer to still have a decent range on laser for country drives, even if it is picking up the car infront being hit with lidar before me. I think this would be handy when actually giving the car some gas in the middle of nowhere E.g when attempting to overtake. It would also be nice to get a heads up when highway patrol are behind or oncoming in traffic before making any swift overtake. Other than this they probably have you, unless you have an alp set up. I'm not interested in connecting the detector to my phone as such but if it has to be then that's OK I guess. An undetectable detector is a good thing and low cost is nice. Gps seems a bit useless except for false detections, and said above, locations of fixed cameras is no issue. Overspeed activity would be good to shut the device up tho when it's not needed if the detector does come with gps, but gps for Australia is the catch if buying from overseas on the cheap. My original pick was probably the Uniden R1 but I'd probably sacrifice a little radar sensitivity (just a little tho) for a little more laser sensitivity if it could still fit my scenario. R1 price is kinda about as much as I want to spend. My last accidental speeding ticket was going downhill 10km over the limit and cost me $420AUD so I'm kind of pre paying my next ticket on the cost of the detector at the most hopefully. Imported R1 is about that price including shipping but have seen lower costing models to consider. Second hand is also an option... Your thoughts would be appreciated. If I'm caught with the detector it's a $1250AUD fine and lose 9 demerit points off my license. A full license holder carries 12 points. So I guess a detector I can easy rip off the dash and shove down my pants is a buying point too, or built-in to the car and ran off my phone is another idea maybe... I read the list of cars discussed on here too that false alert detectors. Mine isn't one of them but if the cars affect the laser side of the detector, that's maybe not good for me in the city as that would be annoying! So many variables to consider! I'm not an experienced radar guy either. Maybe someone on here is?