Does JBV1 Replace Conceal Display?

Discussion in 'Official JBV1 Discussion Section' started by Rohn, May 6, 2018.

  1. BlueV1

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    I'll have to tell you my Waze on the phone made the cop mad story... I'll be turning the phone off and hiding it if I get stopped again.
     
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    I don't think I'd be hiding anything when getting pulled over. Movements like that tend to make it look like you are hiding drugs or a weapon and that makes cops nervous. In the current times with cops being attacked I don't want them nervous.

    If you're worried about what's on the phone screen hit the home button and open another app. Pandora, Spotify, Google maps etc are all perfectly logical apps for someone to use.
     
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    After I moved to Virginia, bought a new car, and got a ticket for the V1 near the headliner, I got my windows tinted and put a black electrical tape door over the V1 display.

    Then I moved to Texas, sold my old V1 and got modern with a new V1 and JBV1. I like using the light sensor option to disable the V1 display.
     
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    Your point about movement is well taken (you talk as if I don't have plenty of experience with LEOs already :) ) but you don't have all the info behind my reasoning.

    I'm talking about pulling the phone off the magnet mount while pressing the power button, hitting okay, and sliding the phone between the seat and armrest still charging.
    I can do that quicker than shutting down Waze, shutting down JBV1, picking a suitable app, etc. before my car is even stopped.

    Why? First;
    The extremely quick version:
    A couple of years ago I was stopped for passing an officer on the right of a 6 lane highway. He was holding up traffic at 60 MPH and all the cars were bunching up behind.
    He's pleasant, seems to understand my reasoning to a point, etc. and I'm sure I'm getting a ticket, but he's going to give me a break for how I executed the manouver and my attitude.
    He comes back really pissed off and throws the ticket for 92 in a 65 AND reckless in the window and he's like a different person now. (I don't have a bad record and I was in a rental Mazda 6 without my V1)
    I start the car, turn the screen of the phone back on and he has messaged me in Waze with, "I see you (with my first name)" from one of the longest random nonsensical usernames I've ever seen on Waze.

    That entire scenario could have turned out differently if I'd at least shut down Waze.

    Secondly, if the phone is off, they ideally need my pin to access it if it's confiscated for some reason. (I know there are ways around that)
    I'm not some creepy pedophile or anything like that, if the phone is off, I can't be accused of being distracted by it, texting, etc. as easily. It takes those options off the table for him.

    Is it overkill? Maybe. But I'd rather be as in control of the situation as I can be and make it difficult for him without seeming to be difficult.
     
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    The cop got pissed off because you were using a traffic monitoring app? He's going to be pissed off a hell of a lot of the time.
    Someone tell him about speed cam warnings on Sat Navs, he'll have a coronary.
     
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    Rohn Learning to Drive General User

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    Few year back before Google bought out Waze, cops in CA tried to life a law suit against Waze saying that it put the life of the police officer in danger by telling the criminal the exact location. Luckily for the judge dismissed their claims stating that it violating the 1st amendment. The police have gone as as becoming Waze user then deleting the entries from the app.

    It might get a police officer irritated that you were using Waze but I don't think it is illegal. Waze is first nav tool and second tool that tell us where the cops are.


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    Rohn Learning to Drive General User

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    If you are worried about the officer seeing you running Waze or JBV1, simply automate your cell phone to turn off the screen when you turn off the ignition to the car. Download Llama or MacroDroid for that.


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    Rohn,
    This is funny because I was telling you about some Automation stuff. ;)

    After the ignition is off isn't always quick enough. Turning the screen off also doesn't stop Waze and I had already turned my screen off in my story above.
    It isn't that an officer can see it on the screen. It's that an officer can see you sitting on the side of the road on their screen. Turning off Waze entirely is how you avoid that. :)
     
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    If you have your V1C on ignition-switched power (a really good idea), and you enable Shut Down Waze option in JBV1, both JBV1 and Waze will shut down fairly quickly when you turn the car off.
     
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    Totally true. :) That's a new benefit that your recent changes have allowed. Works great! Waze behaves better for JBV1 than I'm used to seeing.
     
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    There is always this option
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    Posted from my SM-G955U using the RDF Mobile App!
     
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    Last I tried, you have to change that setting each time you run Waze. It's not a permanent setting. Also, you can't share your drive with a spouse in that mode which I do frequently.

    I appreciate all the ideas we are bringing up. Are any of these as absolute as turning the phone off and putting it away to remove it from the scenario though?
    It's very simple to do and it helps a person keep a little more of their privacy and options open.

    In my case a couple of years ago, I watched the officer's eyes scan the dash and I saw him looking at the phone for a moment.
    If he hadn't seen the phone, he might not have looked at Waze in his car.

    Put yourself in his shoes. We are smart people, and we'd use clues to formulate a likely scenario of what's happening. It's a big part of their job after all. :)

    If I'm ever stopped again, I want the officer to have as few clues to work with as possible.
     
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    At least down here, the cops don't know what waze is, and outside of the cities, almost no one uses it.
    Which surprises me as kiwis are known as early adopters of tech, and we moan endlessly about revenue collection.
     
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    Yeah, I don't really understand why it hasn't caught on so much here. I try to promote it but making slow progress.
     
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    I had a waze alert on a camera van that was so close to the van, the wazer must have been a few cars ahead of me.
     
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