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pss are king - I would only buy ps4 if pss size is not available.

Wife has the ps4 and she can only tell u they are smooth as silk
 

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The pss are super quiet. lol

Handling is crazy.
 

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Well my first set this summer are beat at under 14000 miles

Let’s see if Michelin will homer there 30k warranty I’ll update when I hear back from my tire shop
 

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Well my first set this summer are beat at under 14000 miles

Let’s see if Michelin will homer there 30k warranty I’ll update when I hear back from my tire shop
Keeps us posted.

Details? Toe? Camber? PSI? Staggered? Track days? Airstrip? Dragstrip?
 

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Well my first set this summer are beat at under 14000 miles

Let’s see if Michelin will homer there 30k warranty I’ll update when I hear back from my tire shop
They did for me. My PSS were worn out at 20K, partially due to my driving style and the fact that my car was out of alignment. I got $100 off per tire on a new set of P4S. And the P4S was not that much more expensive than the PSS nor the Conti Sport Contact DW.

I never really expect a set of summer tires to last me 30K. But if there is a warranty and they honor it, then I will keep coming back to Michelin.

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If you run staggered, their warranty is for only 15,000 miles.

For my staggered set up, I’m usually 2 rears for every 1 set of fronts every 15,000ish miles. I’m still on the same PS4s from last year.
 

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They’ll prorate them. They know they probably will last 20k tops unless you drive like a grandma (a grandma who likes PS4S?) but they keep you coming back.
 

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Keeps us posted.

Details? Toe? Camber? PSI? Staggered? Track days? Airstrip? Dragstrip?
-2 front
-1.5 rear
1/32 toe in rear
0 toe front

No track stuff(don’t race your paycheck)

5% dirt roads
20% highway
75% mountian pass/canyon
 

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I just checked my PS4s, and I'm just over 15,000 miles of hwy miles, one rally, and one weekend at the track with this car. Front and rears still have life. I may pick up another set of PS4s for my OEM wheels and slap some RComps on these wheels.

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F/R -2.1/-2.5 and can't remember my toe.

My rear 305s went on in June of 2017:
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And my front 275s went on in September of 2017:
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Holding up well:
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I would love to run some wider options on my A5 than the factory 255/35-19 size. Just don’t want to have to go get different wheels and screw everything up lol
 

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Instead of starting a new thread I thought I would ask here. At what tread depth do you P4S (and PSS) owners replace your tires? Do you wait until you are down to the wear bars or a few 32nds before that? I have about 3/32" before I am into the wear bars. Tomorrow I am going to Discount Tire to get my P4S rotated and I just know they are going to try to sell me new tires. I probably won't replace them yet but they will entice me with credit off for wearing out before the tire warranty expires. Last year when I replaced my PSS they gave me $100 off per tire for premature wear. If they had not done that I probably would have switched over to a less expensive but still good summer tire like the Firestone Indy 500. They are getting rave reviews! But when I can get P4S for just a little bit more after the credits it's a no brainer. The P4S are still great on wet roads even when the tread depth is down.

I am not complaining about the short tread life, I knew going in that ultra high performance summer tires are not known for tread life and I accept that limitation.
I don't trust all seasons with my Scat Pack (I run Blizzaks in the winter). I am not sure of the exact mileage I have on these tires since I have 5 months of Blizzaks in between and I can't find my receipts. I am guessing about 15-18K on these. From the time I bought these in June of 2017 until I put my winters on, my car was out of alignment and that doesn't help. I got much better tread life on my Blizzaks after I had it aligned.

I am hard on tires. I had short tread life with tires on my G8 GT and my 2012 R/T as well.

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The P4S are still great on wet roads even when the tread depth is down.
I think you answered your own question. I ran the PSS till almost balled, still handled great and were as good as any tire in the rain with a tread.

For me i am not worried about getting down to the ware bars unless there is heavy rain and flooding.

If they try to sell you new tires they don't know how good the PS4S are. lol

But there is noting like the feel of new PS4S.
 

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For my street set-up, running -2.1 in the front and -2.5 in the rear, I will never see consistent wear across the contact patch.

My inners will wear at a higher rate than my outters — and there is no rotating staggered tires.

I can usually tell, by feel, when my tires are getting greasy.
 

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I think you answered your own question. I ran the PSS till almost balled, still handled great and were as good as any tire in the rain with a tread.

For me i am not worried about getting down to the ware bars unless there is heavy rain and flooding.

If they try to sell you new tires they don't know how good the PS4S are. lol

But there is noting like the feel of new PS4S.
I must have underestimated my tread depth. They didn't even mention the tread depth, rotated my tires and I am good to go! When I walked in the store they asked if I've done any burnouts lol. I told them no, not since I've been driving on Michelins. Don't need to do stupid things that would wear them out prematurely. So in a way the P4S keeps me out of trouble.

My previous set of PSS almost right into the wear bars when I replaced them and the wet traction was still fine.

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I must have underestimated my tread depth. They didn't even mention the tread depth, rotated my tires and I am good to go! When I walked in the store they asked if I've done any burnouts lol. I told them no, not since I've been driving on Michelins. Don't need to do stupid things that would wear them out prematurely. So in a way the P4S keeps me out of trouble.

My previous set of PSS almost right into the wear bars when I replaced them and the wet traction was still fine.

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I think most good tire places know when you have a tire like this they can go much longer than others with little tread. I actually had a tire place ask if i wanted my almost balled PSS back. lol
 

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I must have underestimated my tread depth.
I'm not sure exactly what size you have, but you only start out with like 9mm in the first place. Wear bars kick in at, what, 2mm? +3mm (your estimation) that means you're at 5mm, only half way through its life.
 

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I'm not sure exactly what size you have, but you only start out with like 9mm in the first place. Wear bars kick in at, what, 2mm? +3mm (your estimation) that means you're at 5mm, only half way through its life.
I think you're close on those tread depths and that is a good point. My tire size is 255/45R20.

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currently have pilot sport 4 on my 335i and it is great, only running 18 inch wheels so unable to run the 4s but ive heard from multiple sources the 4 and 4s are made of almost the same if not the same materials and manufacturing methods.
The tires have been absolutely great so far and i would highly recommend. The road noise has significantly reduced compared to the cinturato runflats
 

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