When do you pass right?

Discussion in 'Stories from the Front Lines' started by erickonphoenix, Apr 18, 2018.

What is your tolerance for passing right on a multi-lane freeway?

  1. I never pass to the right.

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  2. I will only pass to the right when the center lane is open.

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  3. I will pass to the right when any lane is open, if traffic conditions are light.

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  4. I pass to the right in any lane, in any traffic condition.

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  1. erickonphoenix

    erickonphoenix LLE, Left Lane Enforcer Advanced User Premium Member

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    I've had this scenario come up lately on the multi lane freeways.

    1. Generally I'll be in the left lane and I'll come up to a vehicle in front of me that will see me coming and move over.
    2. I'll come up on a vehicle that will stay in the left lane. If the center lane is clear I'll signal early and pass right.
    3. If the center lane isn't clear I'll ease off the gas and coast up behind the car to an acceptable following distance, and wait until we ease past the blocking vehicle then pass right.
    4. I'll come up on a line of cars blocked in the left lane and center lane all shouldered up together. If I can see there's clear traffic ahead I'll option taking the farthest right lane as a passing lane.

    Now this fourth scenario has a lot of downside.
    A. I'm crossing multiple lanes of traffic at speed to pass.
    B. 'm weaving down through the traffic order at high speeds where drivers tend to drive slower.
    C. The most right lane is typically where the Nervous Nellies and Caspar Milktoasts live so there's less predictability happening in that lane.

    A few times I've been brake checked or had a lane change without a signal boxing me out of the pass. Then I usually have to retreat back up into the passing lane. However more often than not because the far right lanes have more gap in the following distance I'll drop down a gear and accelerate in and out of the gaps until I pass the blockade then sweep back up the lane order to rejoin the passing lane.

    I haven't had any close calls but it's definitely dicier down in the right lanes and more often than not I'll simply reject the pass and stay in the cue until a gap opens up. I'm curious what our members tolerance is for passing right?
     
  2. danpass

    danpass Learning to Fly Beginner User

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    Unfortunately 4th scenario is 1st scenario here in SoFla.

    I try to stay center / to the right but there is just too much drama, ironically in the form of the 4th scenario but at low speeds lol.

    If everyone just stayed center/right kept out of the passing lane .....


    Now, the Express lanes, that a different story. I've observed that payment usually results in a more considerate/observant driver, ie they actually 'stay to the right except to pass' which is what I do.


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  3. erickonphoenix

    erickonphoenix LLE, Left Lane Enforcer Advanced User Premium Member

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    I'm not sure why people have started vacating the left lane recently but the last five years it's become more common. I can only assume it's the increased speeding enforcement on that highway and people just want to see me bagged.
     
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    Yep this is South FL, the left and center lanes are often packed full and going the same speed, and the right most lane is completely empty for at least half a mile if not more.... The main thing about doing this maneuver is to make sure you do the lane changes early enough and one at a time. If you start early enough, you wont have to slow down, and if you do them one at a time, you wont look like a jerk or an aggressive driver blindly weaving through traffic. in erickonpheonix's case you do have a height disadvantage that makes it hard to see which lanes are clear around larger vehicles, I have an SUV so I can usually see what the best path is as I'm approaching the clog. I really wish the LEO's would enforce the stay to the right law... the only other real thing to consider about the right lane pass, is knowing why the left and center lanes are clogged, down here that can be due to an embedded leo, if you blast blindly down the right lane you might get a nasty surprise when you pop out in front of the clog of traffic... Almost did this one the other day :)
     
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    i think i understand the question. so if i'm in the hammer lane, and someone is lagging there, will i move to the middle lane to pass?
     
  6. erickonphoenix

    erickonphoenix LLE, Left Lane Enforcer Advanced User Premium Member

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    Or the far right.. pretty much how far right are you willing to go. It's really for multi lane freeways. For instance here in Houston we've got a few that are six and eight lane divided. So you may have an open lane in the far right but that may be three or four lanes over.
     
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    mycars12 Learning to Fly Beginner User

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    Only time someone will move over for me is if I'm doing triple digits coming up on them. I guess doing 85-90 isn't fast enough coming up on them. I'll say less than 50% of people move over when you are approaching them. A little more than 50% move over after like 5 seconds but then you've slowed down to their speed. People camp in the left so like he said you just slowly maneuver your way to the right and go in and out of traffic without spooking anyone. Sometimes it involves passing on the long entrance/exit lane because people are on their phone or doing 10 under psl. Some entrance/exit lanes we got are 1/2 to a mile long.

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  8. PointerCone

    PointerCone M3 Kng Advanced User Premium Member

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    So, you admit that you're a LLH :):) :confused:
     
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    Driving in Germany is awesome.

    'Keep right except to pass' includes a 'no passing on the right' feature.

    So if you're in the hammer lane but sledgehammer is approaching you can quickly shift to the right without looking (if you have to make that sort of maneuver, otherwise look lol)
     
  10. erickonphoenix

    erickonphoenix LLE, Left Lane Enforcer Advanced User Premium Member

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    I'll move over if someone faster comes along. However since my SOP is to floor it until I come to a slower car then slow down or wait to pass that's not very often.
     
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    Erick, I generally find that those who are in the left lane on Chicago and or Florida highways think that they are going fast. ERGO, they are the LLH who believe they own that lane. The best way around them here is to outthink them and stay right (all the way to right on multilane) as "everyone" thinks they are going fast. You'll also find that with entrance ramps, the left lane actually gets longer after the ramp enters as the traffic on right tries to go left to allow right lane traffic in on the merge. The snake of traffic I call it is always longer at entrance ramps on left than on the right. (at least here it is).........
     
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    X2 ^ ^ ^ @danpass ,unfortunately, thats Germany and NOT the US. We're full of LLH here. My friends from KOLN go nuts when I go left and dont stay right, even if no one in the left lane.
     
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    When Granny is in the hammer lane and doing <PSL, I'm off to the right, pass, then back over. Adios Granny.
     
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    Fixed that for you: When Granny is in the hammer lane and doing + 15 PSL, I'm off to the right, pass, then back over. Adios Granny
     
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  15. erickonphoenix

    erickonphoenix LLE, Left Lane Enforcer Advanced User Premium Member

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    Well, the focus of this discussion isn't on highways but mult-lane freeways. There is no move over law on the freeway however, all things being equal I'll take the center lane just because the LEOs tend to post up and shoot the left lane first.

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  16. System

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    Here the right lane is the passing lane. Center and left are travelling lanes. It's so bass-ackwards
     
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    Like Bravo mentioned. In Florida, the passing lane is the right lane.:p

    Erick, your scenarios are just how I drive in a car. Polite until I have to get aggressive. A big advantage of being on the motorcycle is it's harder for them to box me in.
     
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    I no longer sit behind the LLH hoping/thinking they might move over. I'll pass on the right if it permits me to keep rolling along at an efficient pace...no big deal. I don't care for the practice, but it's become the reality.
     
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    Here it depends on where they sit to do lidar. If there's snow on the groudd and its in median, they shoot the right lane by sitting all the way over the right. Cook County shoots off mirror. Call it freeway or highway, we have 6 lanes where I'll still stick to right because everyone else is going to left "thinking" they are Mario Andretti!!
     
  20. spongebobradarpants

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    Any time some dickhead won't get out of the passing lane and there's room to safely pass on the right
     
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