Night time vascar?....

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  1. hammerdown

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    Just got this alert.....San Antonio.... :eek:



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    That's not a vascar flight. Vascar flight typically only hit one or maybe two sites, and they are a really tight circles covering usually less than a mile of roadway and it has to be section of roadway that's marked for it. Fhp flys at night too, the planes are used for transport and for other traffic issues, manhunts, chases, and such. I have never seen a vascar flight after dark, though I'm sure tech is there that would make it possible, it just makes it harder. The planes get used for a bunch of things so not every flight is one of interest... Consider those flight alerts as the BSMs of flight tracking. I got three separate fhp alerts yesterday, none were vascar.
     
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    The travel path looks like a molecule ...the Hammerdown speedaze ;)
     
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    I wonder if they use thermal cameras to see the vehicles during night flights.
     
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    The technology is out there for them to track vehicles at night, plenty of videos of some of the tech they have out there... I think it comes down to the fact that there is no reason to be that stealthy at night for average speed enforcement. A LEO can sit blacked out in the median and pick people off without much trouble, and in many cases wont even get pinned on waze... the real benefit to aircraft vascar is that they can measure your speed well before you are alerted to the presence of police cars that are waiting to pull you over, if they measure you a mile or more from the den of waiting LEO's then they will beat Waze/RD users in most cases, people get very complacent about vascar lines, they drive over them every day and eventually stop thinking about the fact that they can be used to measure your speed, then one day they get ya. Plus in the middle of the night there isn't a ton of traffic so the revenue stream would possibly be lower....
     
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    Agree. Maybe a drunk TX dps pilot sneaking his girlfriend out for a flight.... :mmmhmm:

    I watch FR24 all the time when I get an alert to learn what vascar planes are where and when. I never saw a track like that before. Dude just had no direction. I didn't follow him long enough to see where he landed at.
     
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    They do some very odd flight patterns sometimes, either they are checking a system out or our out looking at things... who knows, unless they are doing tight circles over a roadway with Vascar lines during daylight they aren't usually a speed based threat.
     
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    Tight circles over a roadway could also be a student pilot practicing....
    I'll never forget my first 11pm TruSpeed hit Pitch black out, blacked out car, only reason I spotted him was in trying to find where the laser was being shot from. Way easier and cheaper than flying around at night... Definitely woke me up, and would have been toast if not those three letters A L P
     
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    not when the N number of the plane comes back to TX DPS... ;)

    maybe it was just some other type of night patrol....