Traffic Fatalities up 50% in Edmonton

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  1. GTO_04

    GTO_04 Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

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    I thought all this aggressive camera enforcement in Edmonton was all about "safety." Not working so well, eh?

    Traffic Fatalities up 50% in Edmonton.


    They are also diversifying their camera enforcement to include noise violations. What, are there not enough speeders to replenish the treasury???

    It's time to drain the swamp in your local guvmint!

    GTO_04
     
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    Good grief, I thought it had gone down or stayed...............................
     
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    Obviously they just need more speed cameras.
     
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    get ready for 25mph speed limits like here in nyc!
     
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    Some neighborhoods have that. But some want permanent 30kph/19mph in residentials.



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    Fyi this report is from 2015.






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    I would say 10 times ...eugh 20 X

    they just dont understand how drivers think , studies after studies show that driver will keep the speed they feel ok regardless of the psl.

    Set psl scientifically by 85% centile the true traffic , they will see a drop in accidents...

    Politicians reply '' noooooooo as responsible dumb , we cant do that.''.
     
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  8. Choose Life

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    Slowly heaping it on
    So locals dont protest
    Before you know it youll have J walking cameras
    Facial recognition software cameras that ID you from your DMV photo and send you fines for spitting on the sidewalk, spitting gum on the street, putting out a cigarette in a non authorized receptacle
    The street cameras will up updated to ticket for flipping your blinker on 10ft past designated point
    Following too close tickets issued on every corner

    And the "only" punishment is a couple hundred fine that goes directly to the city to pay their salaries to sit in a boardroom thinking up more ways to steal your hard earned money under the guise of safety

    Youre only out now is mass strikes and protests
    As well as voting out any politician that favors automated enforcement

    Its for safety
    So how about the driver takes their own money and pays a private non designated traffic school and driving program to genuinely receive proper instruction on how to be better drivers?

    Crickets..

    There's no money in that
     
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    Sorry but the noise violation thing is ****ing hilarious. Nothing more annoying than an entire neighborhood trying to enjoy a quiet summer weekend only to have some complete douchebag in a straight piped harley (or 200 of them) drive by.

    Portland lowered residential default speed limit from 25 to 20 and the first comment I saw on it was "people are already driving 15mph now they're going to be going 10 or slower". It's true though, almost everyone either goes way under the speed limit or up to 10mph over and rarely higher. The only time I see people speed much around here are when they think someone is racing them.
     
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  11. schissler

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    I could think of 1000 things more annoying. When loud bikes and cars go by, I think wow, that's loud, then get on with my life and never worry about it again.

    Oregon in general has some of the worst LLH'ing drivers I've ever seen in the US.
    I felt like I was Mario Andretti running laps around everyone when I spent a summer in Portland.
     
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    Yep, not sure why but bunch of morons/idiots here. I'll see people block the left lane going 50mph in a 65 then as soon as the lane next to them opens up they speed up to 85+ to keep anyone from passing until they can get next to another car to hold up traffic more.
     
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    And ladies and gentlemen, here is the result of a poll the Edmonton City took that confirms over 70% WANT the limit reduced to 30 Kph (17 mph). So, now council has something to wave in the air and say, "see, it is wanted by the people, for the people". Done.

    edmontonjournal.com: Several councillors support 30 km/h speed limits on local, residential roads
     
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    I envy you schissler in that you can feel that way as in your quote. Obviously, during the day (I assume that is the time you are thinking of in your statement) I can put up with more noise than at night as you are, but it would be nice not to need to. When that noise during the day causes me to cringe as the vehicles go by, or I need to keep my windows closed over our short summer due to idiots then there is a problem. As for me, in the night, when these morons go by and wake me, I have an entire day thinking about the lack of brain power as I try to do my job safely and be responsive. During the weekends it is out of control. Some deep reaching for self control shouldn't be needed as I'm sure you would agree.
     
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    It doesn't bother me one bit, night or day. I have many more things in life to worry about than some guys loud car/bike for 8 seconds. I'm pretty sick of people complaining about what other people do and more laws being written to control every aspect of our lives. Maybe I just have sight of the bigger picture in life and don't worry about stupid little **** like this, which IMO is a big part of society's problems today.

    If you live in a busy area, no one's forcing you to stay there. Move to the country if you want it quiet, or if it's because your windows are open at night, get Air Conditioning like normal people (foreign concept to AB apparently) and close your windows at night. There's a solution to everything.
     
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    I understand and respect your opinion. The problem I have is that I live in a 100% residential area and the few idiots with the loud vehicles that I am whining about are coming into the residential area to drive (?) around. So if they are coming in to a residential area, then does that mean they are purposely wanting to wake people and cause stress? I guess so. So, to your comment above, a busy area? No, it is a residential area I live in. More over, I didn't know I needed A/C to be normal. In Alberta we don't get very many hot days (>25C) so, in my opinion, having or not having A/C is a moot point. And yes, there is a solution to everything as you say, and that solution is unfortunately, when enough citizens complain the result is more enforcement. Cause and effect.
    As for me personally, like you, I have a lot of bigger things to worry about in life but I'm sure you would agree that when the selfishness of a few causes you to face daily challenges tired, fatigued and irritable it's not fair.
     
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    Maybe you have a nice road to drive on near you? (Do you live by Groat, because even I knew that was the unofficial/official race track of Edmonton within days of moving there). Night time is particularly good to ride or drive because the traffic is nearly zero. I'm guilty of it 100%.
    That's the nature of living in a populated area, like I said, if it's bothersome, no one's forcing you to stay. Move.
     
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    Well, as a final word from me on this, if me, living in a residential area (to be free of traffic noise and that is why I moved to this location from a previous very noisy area) am forced to move because of some loud vehicle noise from a few idiots then there is a real problem of what people are willing to accept day in and day out. It is called respect to not throttle-up to disturb people and there is so little of it left anymore. If you are at peace with being awoken at 3:00 AM by some vehicle noise then I say power to you and good luck..
     
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    Classic revenue grab at other costs...
     
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    These people won't be happy until its faster to walk.
     
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