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Detection of Redflex is easy but commercial detectors are a compromise, they are made to do everything. The Chinese cheap V7 has been modified by myself to do Reflex only and it works great. Before it was hopeless with false alerts and almost deaf to Redflex.
Pole mounts only or vans as well?
 

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Both, I will modify another for Stalker only and put them in a suitable box with only two alerts. Proof of concept is done and just have to tidy the wiring and not having it look ugly. With a little extra work I could have the detectors remote with the warning as a very small display where it will catch my eye. The voice is annoying but I figured out how to program another but it's extra work I can't be bothered with at the moment.
 

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Both, I will modify another for Stalker only and put them in a suitable box with only two alerts. Proof of concept is done and just have to tidy the wiring and not having it look ugly. With a little extra work I could have the detectors remote with the warning as a very small display where it will catch my eye. The voice is annoying but I figured out how to program another but it's extra work I can't be bothered with at the moment.
Nice! When can I give you my money? :D
 

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I really want to have it for my MC but have to interface Bluetooth to my helmet. I have a commercial idea but I am sure they would ban RD's if it became available. At the moment it's not saleable to anybody as it's a pile of wires on my dash when testing. Strange, once I got it working I lost interest but it's coming back.
 

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@Kiwi H2 sounds awesome! Us MC guys really don't have great choices on RD.

I have a Tomtom Rider GPS that's waterproof, wish there was a good RD that was waterproof to. Mustn't be a big enough market I guess...
 

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@Kiwi H2 sounds awesome! Us MC guys really don't have great choices on RD.

I have a Tomtom Rider GPS that's waterproof, wish there was a good RD that was waterproof to. Mustn't be a big enough market I guess...
There is one, but it was only average in testing. I've never had a problem either covering the V1 with a plastic bag, or using a waterproof case. I found that the screen kept it quite dry as long as you were moving at a good speed even in heavy rain.
I keep one of those elasticated jar covers in the tank bag in case it starts to rain.
 

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Awesome! I find it interesting that no one has had a good crack at a specifically redflex tuned device and made it available. Or a device that covers all the bases, with settings that can be muted or dropped to suit a particular type of road tech where it's used. Can't we just have a detector that does everything to cater worldwide, then just drop the settings you don't need for your area?
I'll admit, this would have to make the device user do their homework so they self tune the detector to combat a certain type of camera. At least then the company who makes it doesn't have to struggle to push units in one particular country E.g Australia, where few units would be sold due to laws and the fact it requires a certain type of customer with balls big enough to drive round with it, regardless of the criminal risk and consequence of doing so. These types of customers are few, so obviously the profit is slim and few will be banging down the door to buy one.
I find videos online of detectors being promoted and hailed as breakthrough technology, and told this is the bees knees. I'll end up buying one, stick it on my dash and I'll get a ticket because it's basically an expensive paperweight at the end of the day. Useless! Sorry to diss paperweights too, they actually can be useful with paper when it's windy. At least a paperweight does the job properly.
Honestly, how would you feel if you get sold a radar detector, then after purchase, it's only like a partial radar detector? False advertising. They should not be generalised, and be more specific about it all. Rant, rant Grrr agro grumpy old man, got out of the wrong side of the bed speal over! Haha!
 
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Can't we just have a detector that does everything to cater worldwide, then just drop the settings you don't need for your area.
I'll admit, this would have to make the device user do their homework so they self tune the detector to combat a certain type of camera.
The Redline EX is not far-of that- or supposed to be :D The redflex detection on the EX is pretty crappy unfortunately.
 

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Both, I will modify another for Stalker only and put them in a suitable box with only two alerts. Proof of concept is done and just have to tidy the wiring and not having it look ugly. With a little extra work I could have the detectors remote with the warning as a very small display where it will catch my eye. The voice is annoying but I figured out how to program another but it's extra work I can't be bothered with at the moment.
Do you reckon you could sell it in a kit for hobby type people who are handy with a soldering iron? Then just pickup the V7 for a tenner online? Saves people hitting you up for it and you can keep your life by selling components instead. I'd think this might be popular! You also can't get in trouble (in Australia) for selling kits if that's of concern. Just a thought :) Can't believe you manages to make good use of something so cheap
 
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Awesome! I find it interesting that no one has had a good crack at a specifically redflex tuned device and made it available. Or a device that covers all the bases, with settings that can be muted or dropped to suit a particular type of road tech where it's used. Can't we just have a detector that does everything to cater worldwide, then just drop the settings you don't need for your area?
I'll admit, this would have to make the device user do their homework so they self tune the detector to combat a certain type of camera. At least then the company who makes it doesn't have to struggle to push units in one particular country E.g Australia, where few units would be sold due to laws and the fact it requires a certain type of customer with balls big enough to drive round with it, regardless of the criminal risk and consequence of doing so. These types of customers are few, so obviously the profit is slim and few will be banging down the door to buy one.
I find videos online of detectors being promoted and hailed as breakthrough technology, and told this is the bees knees. I'll end up buying one, stick it on my dash and I'll get a ticket because it's basically an expensive paperweight at the end of the day. Useless! Sorry to diss paperweights too, they actually can be useful with paper when it's windy. At least a paperweight does the job properly.
Honestly, how would you feel if you get sold a radar detector, then after purchase, it's only like a partial radar detector? False advertising. They should not be generalised, and be more specific about it all. Rant, rant Grrr agro grumpy old man, got out of the wrong side of the bed speal over! Haha!
I basically have that. I can set up K band to only alert on Redflex freqs. Unfortunately that is a wide range spanning 23.900 to 24.110 which includes most includes BSM's and other falses. Because Redflex is low powered and angled at around 60 degrees across the road it would take an immensely sensitive detector to give you 500 metres range, and guess what that'll do for the false alarm rate?
At least car manufacturers are moving away from K band, that'll ease the false alarm issue and maybe allow us to use more sensitive settings for K band and/or less filtering.
 

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About 250 meters is where I get detection. The only other thing I get its those speed signs as they are also low powered and on the same band. There is one chip in the unit that decodes stuff I want to look at but can't find the data on it. Anyway it works very well with Reflex but I want to improve on some other aspects of it. I can generate all the bands on the workshop bench so don't have to waste my time doing a drive by. Good result, from 20-30 meters to 250+. I will see if the factory will sell me the RF boards only, the rest is junk, should be cheap as chips!
 

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I think you'll have market for a cheap Redflex detector that'll give 250 metres range. I might even look at it, but I can't give up V1/JBV1 for everything else.
 

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Great testing! Thanks for all the long hours and hard work!
 

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The problem is it is not just being handy with a soldering iron. Its quite involved and takes time.
Just dropping off the bands doesn't solve the very basic problem with retail RD's. The antenna and detector has a wide frequency response which equals having lower gain. So turning off the bands doesn't make the front end better, just the back end less to scan which makes it appear faster to lock. So I changed the configuration of the front end and can even do better than I have now. I have already managed to improve the front end for Redflex by a factor of 6 and Stalker should be similar. When I have figured out a bit more I can put it in a water proof box and nobody would know what it is. I am going to do something very basic with Bluetooth to my Sena equiped helmet, long beeps for Redflex, short beeps for Stalker.
 

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