To lower or not lower that is the question

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  1. Stkrdknmibalz

    Stkrdknmibalz PTM Pacos Ahead! Advanced User Premium Member

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    What do you guys think about lowering the car for handing? Is it worth it?

    I thought about it and I'm very tempted if it increases handling but it will also give a rougher ride

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    It will improve your fuel mileage slightly by dropping your Cd. As far as handling goes yes and no. If you're putting in bigger sway bars and better struts and shocks yes it will improve your handling. Just dropping the car will help a little due to lowering the center of gravity. You do it right with high quality pieces you'll see a slightly stiffer ride but not rougher.

    I dropped my old Volvo 740 Turbo wagon to help with lowering the Cd of the car. I needed to increase the fuel mileage by a large margin and it was one part of the mods needed.

    Oh I forgot, don't go cheap and just cut the springs. In most cases you'll end up hitting the bump stops when you drive over rough roads. Get aftermarket lowering springs that are purposely stiffer to prevent over travel. People do this all the time getting cheap then complain how noisy the car is over rough roads with the loud banging coming from under the car.
     
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    It depends where you live IMO.

    I've owned several lowered cars, they're fun and handle great when done properly (QUALITY Coilovers/correct springs) and other suspension mods. Some people like to slam the **** out of their car, I liked a more moderate stance, my biggest guideline for height was that I was still able to get a low-profile jack under the vehicle. I had one that I had to drive up on wood blocks to get a jack under...Never again. Always being worried about ripping off the front lip/bumper, having to go sideways up driveways, dodging every pothole or crack in the road...all of the above is HARD on suspension part, coilovers, balljoints, wheels etc take a huge beating. Done with that.

    I haven't owned a car for a long time due to road conditions where I drive the last few years. But having said that if I made a permanent move down to the desert where the roads are awesome, I'd do it again in a second.
     
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    Are the roads ok to lower a car there - what about the snow? I used to drop most of the audi's on coils, but the winter gave me fits and I was replacing control arm bushings once a year. Some driveways I had to enter at an angle to prevent scraping some bumpers.

    Some lowered cars I have had has been a pain, the roads are terrible with the potholes from the winter around here and when lowered the ride was not great in some vehicles - I was pushing snow with some of them and my wheel wells got filed up with snow in the winter on some models. Plus I hit a lot of little cement parking lot barriers as I was about 1/2 an inch below them - sometimes the rebar would be stuck out a little from the cement and it would scrape the crap out of my bumper.

    I finally stopped lowering most of the cars when my father said I had to paint the next bumper I brought in the shop all by myself.

    Depending on the car - The handling was a little to a lot better , but you could feel the road bumps and dips a lot more and some were harsh, but you can dial that in a little with the proper coil overs.

    I would ask someone that has your exact car - I am sure people on the forums have done various coil and bag drops and you can select what is right for you.
     
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    Streets are full of holes and winter is 8 months a year FFFFFFFFFCK

    I was going for a 1" and 1.3" drop but my car is already relatively low with 5 inch clearance left

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    Lowering cars is one of the best modifications you can do. I've used coilovers, lowering springs, and now air suspension. (definitely my favorite)

    As long as you don't cheap out on parts you'll be happy.

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    IMO the amount of effort and $$$ to do it right for a little better handling is not worth it. Then you have to consider what else it may effect negatively.

    But i guess if you are running summer sport tires like the PSS and want even better handling go for it.
     
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    Running continental DWS06, very risky in my case as I've got crazy amount of snow and lots of pot holes

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    Here is some inspiration. In your case you should go with coilovers. Lower it during the Spring/Summer and raise it for the Winter.
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    I've driven cars with coilovers and they feel like a go kart wasn't a fan of it

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    I used dedicated snows for the heavy snow times and potholes, then dedicated summer tires for the best performance all around. IMO you would see better performance doing this than lowering it.
     
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    Funny I already do. I use winter extreme contact for winter and the DWS06 for spring/summer

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    They probably didn't have dampening controls. You can still have a comfy ride... just depends on how much $$$ you want to spend.
     
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    I lower all my cars but really just for looks. I hate wheel tuck and gap. I find the handling is a wash... slightly better cornering but slightly rougher ride. I would definitely only swap springs with new shocks calibrated to go with that spring. Personally I don't adjust the negative camber out of the rear wheels because I like the slightly squatty stance and on the Mustang it's only two degrees which isn't that much. The tires do wear unevenly but sometimes you gotta suffer for your art.

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    I would switch to the new PS4S for summer and vredestein snowtrac 5 for the winter.
     
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    Find a QUALITY set of Coilovers, then you can raise/lower and adjust dampening/ride height as needed.

    Two of my cars are lowered on Coilovers, I love the infinite adjustability.

    For a gearhead/track junkie — just getting lowering springs is like running Ka wide when you can run segmented.
     
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