2 years with the Stinger VIP - A longterm review

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Received email from Stinger touting their new all fiber laser system . The marketing material (Stinger USA) stated that it had "Unsurpassed performance". I sent an email asking if there were going to be doing any testing. Reply was "We are having independent test done for the fiber laser in the upcoming months." I replied back stating hopefuly they would publish the results here.
 
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Received this info from Stinger HQ here in the Netherlands: “Recently, we have invested heavily in development for the US. This has had the effect that we have had to leave certain things elsewhere, by necessity. Now that the US project has been completed, we will focus on other things again. We work on development and software every day. The result is not always directly convertible into software suitable for customers. With our system, which is entirely developed and produced by ourselves, we think we have a beautiful system that can work together seamlessly, with a few choices in terms of interfaces (display or strip), and a very sensitive patch antenna (antenna on a printed circuit board) and with the smallest laser eyes in the world, to have the best basis in this field.
So I wonder how Stinger works anno April 2019
 

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Received this info from Stinger HQ here in the Netherlands: “Recently, we have invested heavily in development for the US. This has had the effect that we have had to leave certain things elsewhere, by necessity. Now that the US project has been completed, we will focus on other things again. We work on development and software every day. The result is not always directly convertible into software suitable for customers. With our system, which is entirely developed and produced by ourselves, we think we have a beautiful system that can work together seamlessly, with a few choices in terms of interfaces (display or strip), and a very sensitive patch antenna (antenna on a printed circuit board) and with the smallest laser eyes in the world, to have the best basis in this field.
So I wonder how Stinger works anno April 2019
Wait.... does that mean the USA is a solved problem now?
 

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Wait.... does that mean the USA is a solved problem now?
No, just means it is a problem now lol

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No, just means it is a problem now lol

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" Now that the US project has been completed, we will focus on other things again" makes me super scared as a former Stinger customer. I really wish I'm wrong.

Like I really feel for our EU/OZ friends who feel even more left out than USA customers, but the latest updates and maybe the new laser system do seem like a step in the right direction for the USA but I'm not really hearing from @mikedotd and others like it's sounding like this is a Max Ci 360 killer (which I think is where Stinger ought to be given the price point and premium engineering reputation). Not to be too harsh to them, but honestly what was described in the latest update is how the original 1.0 USA product should've been. And an upward trajectory from there.
 

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Maybe they meant to say " now that we have basically given up on the USA" ...
 

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Great write up and review.
I’m also a longtime (3+ year) user. Have seen some of the K issues but not really a threat locally. Ka is the primary radar threat. I haven’t seen a fail here.
Laser is the real threat and in that area my VIP shines! I’ve had numerous saves and haven’t had a close inspection since installing older square receivers and fiber transmitters.
The new fiber won’t interface with my early system? That kind of sucks as I still need rear laser coverage.
What say you?
 

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Great write up and review.
I’m also a longtime (3+ year) user. Have seen some of the K issues but not really a threat locally. Ka is the primary radar threat. I haven’t seen a fail here.
Laser is the real threat and in that area my VIP shines! I’ve had numerous saves and haven’t had a close inspection since installing older square receivers and fiber transmitters.
The new fiber won’t interface with my early system? That kind of sucks as I still need rear laser coverage.
What say you?
Are you running a LAB or Freedom system?
 

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I seem to be having issues with my RX sensors they aren't alerting the way they used to, this seems to be fairly recent too, so not sure if its result of the LAB or one or more of the sensors.
 

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you just cant trust Stinger in the real world
My laser system was solid for ages, but I'm not sure ATM.
It can be trusted but like any system it still needs to be tested regularly, I have problems with my laser ATM but I am working through that with Paul, he's pretty awesome.
 

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Has anyone installed the latest system yet? HD+ and the all fiber laser? Curious how it's doing and if there have been any promising FW updates meaning any FW updates etc. etc..
 

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Has anyone installed the latest system yet? HD+ and the all fiber laser? Curious how it's doing and if there have been any promising FW updates meaning any FW updates etc. etc..
@Vortex recently did some lidar testing with the latest fiber system with good results. I don't believe the HD+ patch antenna has been tested by RDF members yet though.

Stinger has addressed some of the VIP firmware issues since I wrote this review. I'll try and update the OP soon to reflect that fact.
 

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When I see things like $7000 with install, and it fails to do the job as described, and I hate to put it this way - seeing as I'm not a cashed up person either, so call me a peasant, I've got thick skin for the internet. Unless you're a tester of this unit, you've probably got more money than sense. And if that's the case, I hope this at least gets people a leg up, with multiple good looking sexual partners who sit in the car and stare at it in awe thinking it's such a wonderful thing. I think people are mad to invest in this. Maybe it's just me, and I'll be happy to step down and be proved wrong if it's such a solid product. Honestly, I think this is one of the most overrated, overpriced, talked up pieces of tech, for deep pocketed punters I've ever seen. I'm probably going to cop a warning for saying this, but if I'd spent that money and had these issues, I'd be absolutely furious. Where I'm from $10000 is a house deposit. Emails to the company falling on deaf ears? OK, like I said, I'll probably get done here for hammering down on a company, but c'mon, that's alot of money there. Bit tough to take it on the chin isn't it? I know I'm not the only one thinking this, probably the only one to type it though. Handing over a sum of money like that only to be left in hope of things to come? This just keeps sounding like a premature underdeveloped cash grab to stay in the game whilst dazzling people with pretty lights on big displays. I'm over this thing. They need to seriously lift their game and that's no joke. Actual highway robbery, but maybe considered as chump change for someone with a $200000+ car, so they let it slide. Sorry people for a bit of a rant, but c'mon. This company sounds like it's going to go under and leave people in the lurch if they don't pull their finger out and quit mucking around. :flame:
I'll take one for the team here, as I'm not impressed. I feel sorry for people when I read and hear these stories. Everyone wants to see this setup succeed, including me. With the amount of cash getting splashed on this, I cannot understand why it is struggling and getting burnt by much cheaper portables. I've zero faith in this setup out of everything I've seen, ever. I'll probably end up deleting this post if I'm asked, or as I'll cool back down to room temperature eventually and see the errors and imperfections of my ways. If only Stinger could do the same.
Stinger.... Of your wallet. Stab those bank notes with an irreversible one way barbed stinger.
Couldn't you just pay about 50 speeding fines and still come out with change? Or maybe it's only about 4.5 fines where I'm at. :eyebrow:
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I'm still using my original stinger purchase (14/09/2015) going on three years. I have BMW X6M with the antenna mounted outside lower front grill, no problems it works fine. I have three laser receivers (cube) two in kidney grill near each headlight and one in grill just below kidney, I have three fiber transmitters one above each light and one in center grill next to receiver. The radar works great , we travel between Arizona and Carlsbad,CA and it detects long before we get anywhere near the source.The lasers have saved me three times.
So I am happy with my purchase and after three years feel the value is there. Sorry it has not worked as well for others.

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You sir... Need to be questioned. How come your setup works so well? That's excellent to hear... for once... and probably the only time I've heard someone have zero complaints.
Why this product is so hit and miss is strange as...
Nice car too man!
 
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When I see things like $7000 with install, and it fails to do the job as described, and I hate to put it this way - seeing as I'm not a cashed up person either, so call me a peasant, I've got thick skin for the internet. Unless you're a tester of this unit, you've probably got more money than sense. And if that's the case, I hope this at least gets people a leg up, with multiple good looking sexual partners who sit in the car and stare at it in awe thinking it's such a wonderful thing. I think people are mad to invest in this. Maybe it's just me, and I'll be happy to step down and be proved wrong if it's such a solid product.
It's one thing to be critical of a manufacturer and a product for legit concerns but completely and utterly uncalled for when you criticize the users because they decided to spend their money on it. Everyone has their financial thresholds and frankly, it shouldn't matter and you shouldn't care. This user group is supposed to be on the same side. Everyone gets to spend their own money how they like, they earned it. So as long as it's not hurting you let's be respectful.

Everyone wants to see this setup succeed, including me. With the amount of cash getting splashed on this, I cannot understand why it is struggling and getting burnt by much cheaper portables.
Now this is what the conversation should be about. I don't even own this system and not sure I would but I am sure interested in them succeeding. It's great for the industry. Constructive criticism is helpful, not bashing people for wanting a fancy expensive system.

You sir... Need to be questioned. How come your setup works so well? That's excellent to hear... for once... and probably the only time I've heard someone have zero complaints.
Why this product is so hit and miss is strange as...
Not to imply that this system doesn't seem to be one of the more buggy ones, but I think there are plenty of people who don't have many complaints. I know several that have this system, outside of this forum, and love it. But they are also not as geeky and into the technical side of these things. I'm not sure there is any system discussed here that has not been criticized to some degree.
 

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I seem to remember that Stinger does perform well in some other countries. Maybe the US is not their primary focus.
 

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