Do Wheel locks work?

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  1. erickonphoenix

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    All my custom wheels have basically used the same concept as a gorilla lock, it's a single keyed lug with a socket that unlocks it. But none of that really matters because........

    That or a heavy duty nut extractor. So far what's been saving my wheels in the factory 150 ft/lb torque spec.
     
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    Yeah I'm just trying to slow them down

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    Living on the planet Hoth isn't slowing them down enough?
     
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    This ones?

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    Something like that but there was only one keyed lug. That was for the VMR wheels on my e46 BMW.
     
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    wheel locks are a PITA and unless you.

    A. have wheels that are worth alot of $$$, and
    B. live in a place where the threat of wheel theft is real,

    I wouldnt get them unless you really need them, and yes, they are defeatable. They can just remove all the other lugnuts, drop the car down off the jack or block hard on the single stud left with the locking lug on it and bust the stud from the hub. Now not only do you need new wheels, but now you need either a stud installed in all your hubs or new hubs. :pwn:

    I hate having to deal with locking lugs when rotating and changing tires....
     
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    I've used the Gorillas in the past. I liked them alot. I actually felt they were easier to us than traditional lugs in the sense that they have a very solid interlock feel when you slide the keyed socket over the lug. I had the long ones. I also ordered a second keyed socket the day I bought them so I always had one in the tool chest. This way I didn't have to mess with the one in the car at all. Like many others have said, they will deter an amateur, but a pro is gonna get what he wants, because he won't even try unless he knows he can get them. A way better plan is to park your car in front of an Arlo, Ring, EZVIZ, or some other motion activated camera that attaches to your phone using an app. Anybody goes near your ride, your phone tones and you can see real time video of what's going on. When they spot the red dot on their chest before they can even get started, you'll never see them again.
     
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    angrypenguin Eat Lead Mothertrucker!! Advanced User Premium Member

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    Can you please explain what you mean by this? It takes me literally 2 seconds to put on the lock/key thing and I'm good to go.
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    I have zero deductible insurance for both collision and comprehensive, so if they did that, then yay, a new free hub.

    The main reason I have lugnut locks is because I just want to deter a criminal, that's all, to save myself the headache from having to deal with insurance.

    On my car, interestingly enough, the wheel goes on the hub, and the lugnuts go straight into the hole. It's hard to explain, but it's the opposite of many American cars. Frig I don't know how to explain myself now, but if they wanted to steal my rims, they'd fracture the lock lugnut bolt, and that's not a big deal.
     
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    hammerdown No half measures.... Advanced User

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    Simple. Seems like half the time I can't find the f****** key... and have to spend 10 minutes rummaging through the glove box or the center console because somebody will move it... :rolleyes:

    If you don't have kids you don't understand.... :p

    Or there's those times I put it up on the lift and then realize I didn't get the f****** key out so then I have to lower the car back down to fish out the stupid key....

    I just leave the OEM rims on. nobody's going to steal those... then I don't have any headaches.
     
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    These are exactly what I had. Really high quality. I liked them alot. Found them to be just as easy as regular lugs with no corners to round off and then start to rust.
     
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    wheels locks are just a pain, have fun if you lose the key to open them. Which always happens.
     
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    Never happened to me, I'm very OCD ...

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    There are a few issues I have had. One is that you need to keep the Key, but keep it in the place where you can find it, but not obvious to thieves. Most of them realize the key is in the Car somewhere. If you misplace it or your wife moves it, then there is some time to find it. Also I have bought used cars, no key but the locking nuts are there.

    I have run into a number of problems over the years, I used to use locking nuts on every vehicle.

    When you are using the widowmaker jack on the side of the road, not all of the after market keys fit the standard lug wrench that comes with the specific car. Get 4 lugs off - or 3 for the Miata and you realize you have the key, but no lug wrench that fits it. You could be paying for a flatbed tow at that point - This happened when my wife got a flat in a miata.

    At one point I was driving around with 2 keys, a breaker bar and a socket that would fit the Aftermarket Keys and Lug bolts.

    Another problem I have had is the Key or locking nut has been stripped twice. Todays torque wrenches are quite powerful. I was getting new tires and the shop tried to use one of their keys which was slightly different, and rounded the inside of the locking nut - my brother had to drive 3 hours to fix it. Another time, a key broke in half when we used a snap on torque wrench, it was a low quality key, but not all are made to OEM standards.

    I also rotate tires on vehicles or swap winters/summers at least once every other month and certain key designs are not as good as others, so I don't like to deal with the hassle and potential problems that I have experienced prior. Usually one of the guys or me gets the car up on the lift and we forget to get the key and bring it down again.

    Locking nuts are sure to help a lot of people, but I don't experience the same risks, If I did I would have Steelies that have little value, at least for the 6 months of winter we experience.
     
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    another way they could do it is the same way you deal with a rounded off lug nut.... grab an old socket that you dont care about that barely fits it, hammer it on real good with a sledge hammer and then put your wrench on it.....
     
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    That's basically how a nut extractor works but with deep cutting teeth so it's going to really set into the nut. Then after you drive out the sent nut from the backside with a punch you've recovered to tool.
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    guaranteed hammering a socket onto those will work to get them off with all those "fins" grabbing and digging into the socket as they pound it on. Better to have the smooth round ones with the center key design.
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    yeah, its the same concept, and the times ive done it on a worn lug nut ive always recovered the socket with little to no damage after putting it in my bench vise, putting a screwdriver in the square hole and tapping the lug nut back out.

    but I recommend using an old socket youre not going to miss just in case you strip it, break it or cant get the lug nut out and have to toss it. I dont ever use my expensive impact sockets for this... ive got an old tool box full of used ****ty sockets perfect for "kamikaze" jobs like that where there is a good chance the socket is toast when im done... :mmmhmm:
     
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    I'm probably sensitive to preserving sockets from being on a boat for so long. I couldn't mosey over to the hardware store when I was out at sea so I preserved everything to like new condition. On the plus side I usually had lots of free time so if I lacked the proper extraction tool I could always file the offending problem away with a hand file.
     
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    Which ones do you guys recommend em getting?

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