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Okay, I have put together a further revised and updated NZ R3 database.

This also incorporates a review and update of V1.36 of the Official Uniden NZ/A DB version. Therefore it includes both my previous camera improvements as well some further improvements made by Uniden.

I am making this available separately as both V2.06 for NZ firmware, and 3 Jan 2019 for US firmware. Although the formats are different the actual content will be identical.

However, this time, I'm not going into the habit of chasing people to dish it out. So if you want a copy: Please send me a request, and also please indicate which version / firmware you want to use it with.
 

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You need a crimp tool too.
I've got a crimp tool if needed. Brought it ages ago as I broke the tab on the clip and had to replace it.

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I've got a crimp tool if needed. Brought it ages ago as I broke the tab on the clip and had to replace it.
These look pretty good too...

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EXTRA LONG UNIDEN ESCORT BEL VALENTINE RADAR HARDWIRE CABLE - Std Fuse Type
 

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They use the 4kmh because Stalker only guarantees the units to that spec so they would loose in court if they tried to say you were 103 because even visual tracking history isn't that accurate. The truth is they are accurate to less the 1kmh. Before I go to a track day I check my two units with GPS and they are bang on. Today I saw a motorcyclist in the distant behind me, I got the remote out of the console pocket and I/O'd him from behind at 147 and I/O'd him going for it through the cars ahead of me at 150. Now, I normally don't use it on the road, only to calibrate, so if I can push the on button, grab the remote and I/O from both Gunns then the LEO's do have the upper hand. Listen to you RD, that annoying beep could be I/O being used!
You do know that GPS, at least the Sat Navs I've used, are only warranted to +/- 1.6 km/h accuracy?
I think phones can be worse.
 

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The signal you get is relative to PDOP, look it up as explanation is so involved. Also depends on what constellation is being used, China, USA, Japan, EEU or all. Also the cosign error is interesting, I have had guys ride long sweeping turns away and to me, the 12 deg requirement for the radar beam seems about right and anything out side that the tracking history would not match the display. Within that beam the displayed speed is within the error claimed. So interesting owning a couple of these units, so much information out there is wrong, like, ' the patrol speed is off the road', FALSE! it comes from the sounding clutter. On a motorway with concrete barriers both sides the Stalkers find it difficult to get a Patrol speed lock. They clock heavy rain or flax in the wind at about 23kmh. So interesting...
 

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I did a test on the R3 that gave away something unexpected today:

If you have a 'User Mark' set in proximity to a GPS camera alert, the User Mark can disable the Over Speed alert!

Therefore people need to be careful if you have previously set up a User Mark for a local camera, and that camera is later added to the DB. Although the User Mark has a range of 400m, you're probably better off removing the User Mark, and relying upon the GPS Database alert (max range = 300m). In other words, you will hear and see the User Mark, and also hear the Speed Camera Ahead alert. But you may never be alerted to the fact that your speed is drifting over the speed limit. If you remove the User Mark, the overspeed alerts become active again.

In the latest NZ firmware update, I also noted that Uniden have also been getting lazy. Uniden has started using a new camera setting that has overwritten the directional alert system. This helps to maximise the range, but this type of camera is particularly susceptible to interfering with the User Mark and its alerting system.
 

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The signal you get is relative to PDOP, look it up as explanation is so involved. Also depends on what constellation is being used, China, USA, Japan, EEU or all. Also the cosign error is interesting, I have had guys ride long sweeping turns away and to me, the 12 deg requirement for the radar beam seems about right and anything out side that the tracking history would not match the display. Within that beam the displayed speed is within the error claimed. So interesting owning a couple of these units, so much information out there is wrong, like, ' the patrol speed is off the road', FALSE! it comes from the sounding clutter. On a motorway with concrete barriers both sides the Stalkers find it difficult to get a Patrol speed lock. They clock heavy rain or flax in the wind at about 23kmh. So interesting...
That explains the use of Lidar on motorways, plus the fact they can't U turn.
You could have a side career as an expert witness in defended speeding charges.
 

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That explains the use of Lidar on motorways, plus the fact they can't U turn.
You could have a side career as an expert witness in defended speeding charges.
On this note... I've been really wanting to know if anyone has seen the Stalker XLR being used?

It's supposed to much harder to Jam than the older units.

I've only ever seen Stalker LR being used but the link posted at the bottom of this suggests they do have stalker XLR here?

fyi.org.nz: Types of Police speed surveilance equipment - a Official Information Act request to New Zealand Police
 

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If anyone is looking for a Escort Redline Ex, I have one for sale. Purchased this on 19/12/18 and an R3 and have decided to stick with the R3. Am based in Wellington and open to any reasonable offer.
 

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XLR is pretty useless as these tools are only a backup to the LEO's estimation of your speed unless you can get them to admit at the time they are using these tools as the first indicator of speed, then they can be pulled to bits in court. I doubt if even their tech people could answer my questions I know the answer to. Almost all the equipment they used can be challenged in court but there are very few people really understand enough to confidently challenge this in court and have the Judge understand what is being explained. Judge understanding is the most important part.

Hey Lou, see a guy was snapped at 199kmh almost twice the speed limit on his MC by a mobile unit, they are looking for the Aprillia. Well he better change his riding gear as well as they will be checking all owners. Admit to nothing, just tell them your details, nothing else, let them build 'beyond doubt' which they can't unless he opens his big mouth!
 

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XLR is pretty useless as these tools are only a backup to the LEO's estimation of your speed unless you can get them to admit at the time they are using these tools as the first indicator of speed, then they can be pulled to bits in court. I doubt if even their tech people could answer my questions I know the answer to. Almost all the equipment they used can be challenged in court but there are very few people really understand enough to confidently challenge this in court and have the Judge understand what is being explained. Judge understanding is the most important part.

Hey Lou, see a guy was snapped at 199kmh almost twice the speed limit on his MC by a mobile unit, they are looking for the Aprillia. Well he better change his riding gear as well as they will be checking all owners. Admit to nothing, just tell them your details, nothing else, let them build 'beyond doubt' which they can't unless he opens his big mouth!

How is the LIDAR gun a useless tool? It's probably the primary tool that's used when they enforce speed on the Auckland Motorways? Then after acquiring speed they tend to estimate if the the vehicle was actually travelling that speed.
 

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XLR range is beyond visual tracking history. Good lawyer that knows what to ask can make them look fools unless the Justice system is not honest. Look at the specs of the XLR.

And another thing, I have taken every ticket to court, I'm not lazy!

Cosine error is just not in the horizontal, also vertical. Depending on the height of the bridge they are taking shots from they only have a legally defensible part of the motorway they can use, cosine error max as per manufacturers specs and tracking history. There is at 100+ kph only a small window they can snap you. Who asks where you got me, nobody! If your too lazy to ask the LEO questions then you deserve be a sheep and pay. Most people are scared of LEO's but why, you have the right to face your accuser. The only way to deal with a bully is stand up to one or as most do, thank the LEO for the ticket. Replies welcome!
 
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@DEMON5, please could you post a reminder about what Ka band segmentation you suggest we run on the R3. I have by now obviously updated and factory reset my R3 numerous times, so I can't now remember what it was previously optimised to!
 

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Hey Lou, see a guy was snapped at 199kmh almost twice the speed limit on his MC by a mobile unit, they are looking for the Aprillia. Well he better change his riding gear as well as they will be checking all owners. Admit to nothing, just tell them your details, nothing else, let them build 'beyond doubt' which they can't unless he opens his big mouth!
Good advice. Most people don't know the "say nothing incriminating rule". You can still do this without being rude.
Luckily, or not, I don't have an Aprilia. How did they know the brand? If they got a reg, they can ping the owner.
 

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@DEMON5, please could you post a reminder about what Ka band segmentation you suggest we run on the R3. I have by now obviously updated and factory reset my R3 numerous times, so I can't now remember what it was previously optimised to!
I run Ka segmentation with segments 4,5 & 6 turned on to allow for stalkers that drift both high and low from 34.700ghz I frequently see Stalkers at 34.5xx and sometimes 34.8xx
 

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They got the name off the photo, even the model, 1000cc. It was at Waihola.
 

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I run Ka segmentation with segments 4,5 & 6 turned on to allow for stalkers that drift both high and low from 34.700ghz I frequently see Stalkers at 34.5xx and sometimes 34.8xx
Great, thanks for the confirmation.
 

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Had to go to another town today, no cops to be seen and so many cars doing 80kph with lots of traffic behind them. I thin my wife counted 5 doing this and I asked her as we passed are the Asians, the answer surprised me in every case. They were two females chatting to each other totally oblivious to what's going around them, a couple were in Juicey rental cars, the rest late models un-marked. Quite a few drivers taking chances to get past. So 4k over is not ok but 20k under is, how can you have respect for NZTA and those who enforce this crap!
 

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HI all

I am obviously new here, and have joined as I am researching hard out for the best radar detector to fit to my Ducati Panagali Superbike, before heading south to the Burt Munro in Invercargill. From Auckland return to so I am picking ahead of time that I may be susceptible to speed inforcement over the long trip.

I am currently leaning towards the Red line Ex, however see that the preference appears to be the uniden R3 due to its extended range.

Now as I am fitting it to a bike it is not as easy to load in false signals etc, use buttons on the fly etc and I will be relying heavily on voice alerts, which need to run on an app on my iPhone, as this connect directly to my wireless Sena unit in my helmet. Therefore the voice alerts and alarms need to be really good. I will also be using the unit in our cars.

You all seem to be very knowledgable on everything RD so please let me know your thoughts and recommendations.

I have read the testing that has been completed locally which was really helpful.

I hope I wasn't the bike that was mentioned in this thread above clocked from behind... :)


So thank you in advance for all your advice....

P.S I have established the only waterproof bike unit the TPX 3 won't give me enough range to react so that's out and the test results really showed how crap they are.
 

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HI all

I am obviously new here, and have joined as I am researching hard out for the best radar detector to fit to my Ducati Panagali Superbike, before heading south to the Burt Munro in Invercargill. From Auckland return to so I am picking ahead of time that I may be susceptible to speed inforcement over the long trip.

I am currently leaning towards the Red line Ex, however see that the preference appears to be the uniden R3 due to its extended range.

Now as I am fitting it to a bike it is not as easy to load in false signals etc, use buttons on the fly etc and I will be relying heavily on voice alerts, which need to run on an app on my iPhone, as this connect directly to my wireless Sena unit in my helmet. Therefore the voice alerts and alarms need to be really good. I will also be using the unit in our cars.

You all seem to be very knowledgable on everything RD so please let me know your thoughts and recommendations.

I have read the testing that has been completed locally which was really helpful.

I hope I wasn't the bike that was mentioned in this thread above clocked from behind... :)


So thank you in advance for all your advice....

P.S I have established the only waterproof bike unit the TPX 3 won't give me enough range to react so that's out and the test results really showed how crap they are.
I think both the redline ex and R3 will both be excellent for your trip. The EX is bulkier and heavier. Secure Mounting is probably more the issue you should be most concerned about. The false alerts should not really be an issue if you’re comfortable switching K band off and segmenting Ka band appropriately. Even with K band on, on the highway you should have minimal falses. If you buy a NZ version it should come with most of fixed camera locations. For a US imported R3s, a few members here can help with a NZ speedcamera database.

Yes, the TPX is quite .

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I think both the redline ex and R3 will both be excellent for your trip. The EX is bulkier and heavier. Secure Mounting is probably more the issue you should be most concerned about. The false alerts should not really be an issue if you’re comfortable switching K band off and segmenting Ka band appropriately. Even with K band on, on the highway you should have minimal falses. If you buy a NZ version it should come with most of fixed camera locations. For a US imported R3s, a few members here can help with a NZ speedcamera database.

Yes, the TPX is quite .

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Thanks dudeinnz, which one would be your preference in my circumstances
 

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