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All these KA frequencies are a little worrying. Personally, i think i'm going to start scanning everything from 34.500ghz(approx) upwards. I was getting falsing around 33.8 when unsegmented.

After the testing @Aucklandradar and i did a few weeks ago, i learnt that the speed/performance difference between a single segment and KA-WIDE was almost undetectable to me. Maybe on a different course, but on our botany course the change went mostly unnoticed. I'm not saying there's no benefit to segmentation, just that it might not be absolutely necessary when you weigh up the averages.
 

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Nice, if you can do one sweep why not try 34.5 or even 34.6 - 34.9. Or you reckon too narrow?

I am unsure about the 35.5 as I have encountered it once, was pretty convincing, but nothing since then : www.rdforum.org: Just came across Ka 35.483 - Christchurch
Hmm, I need to go back through my logs. I have seen valid 34.6xx and high 34.8xx*, so I'd rather risk the occasional false for now. Might leave the 35.5 sweep in too for purposes of gathering data
*These numbers of course, are based on what my detector reports. Considering the nature of these devices I think "indication only" applies here.

All these KA frequencies are a little worrying. Personally, i think i'm going to start scanning everything from 34.500ghz(approx) upwards. I was getting falsing around 33.8 when unsegmented.

After the testing @Aucklandradar and i did a few weeks ago, i learnt that the speed/performance difference between a single segment and KA-WIDE was almost undetectable to me. Maybe on a different course, but on our botany course the change went mostly unnoticed. I'm not saying there's no benefit to segmentation, just that it might not be absolutely necessary when you weigh up the averages.
Oh the performance difference I'm quite convinced is negligible to non-existent in practise. The main reason to segment is to try and minimise falses from cheap radar detectors. Generally those are lower power than real police radar, but annoying when one pulls up next to you at the lights and sometimes nearly heart-attack inducing when you pass one oncoming on a nice windy hilly section of tarmac...
34.5GHz is probably a safe enough lower limit.
 

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Hmm, I need to go back through my logs. I have seen valid 34.6xx and high 34.8xx*, so I'd rather risk the occasional false for now. Might leave the 35.5 sweep in too for purposes of gathering data
*These numbers of course, are based on what my detector reports. Considering the nature of these devices I think "indication only" applies here.



Oh the performance difference I'm quite convinced is negligible to non-existent in practise. The main reason to segment is to try and minimise falses from cheap radar detectors. Generally those are lower power than real police radar, but annoying when one pulls up next to you at the lights and sometimes nearly heart-attack inducing when you pass one oncoming on a nice windy hilly section of tarmac...
34.5GHz is probably a safe enough lower limit.
I tend to agree, it's about limiting false, not performance.

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@Tseven007 Yeap! I agree. The more data we have the more confidence we have knowing we are probably not loosing any/much performance plus covering our asses in the case there is out of tune devices out there.

I've got to be honest with you, sometimes I go past patrol cars and am surprised they aren't running radar at times either I/O or C/O and it does instill a inkling of doubt that maybe they're running out of tune stuff.. But yeah most probably nothing more than that though, doubt. Because otherwise I would have picked them up when I use to run KA Wide.
 

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Likewise ^^ very interesting.

On the FYI page it says they should respond no later than today.. :)
Haha, I had that saved as a reminder on my phone to go and check!
 

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they thing is though, Those police are going to release the "offical information"

what you not going to hear about is the random couple of KA guns in each province that is mysteriously outside of its specified frequency.

P.C.Plod really has no idea whats in the street, they've been told at purchasing they're getting stalkers, and that's what they got. Please correct me if i'm wrong, but no where in the Stalker ATR manual i have for my gun does it state the operating frequency, nor how to verify its correct. So how would they know?

I guess what i'm saying is, don't change any of your settings based on the report. We have a 2013 and a 2015 OIA request that tell us its only 34.7ghz, and we suspect that's not right. I'm expecting the same answer in 2018 too.

Having said that, it will be a bonus if they confirm other equipment this time, that would verify what most of us suspect at least.

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I've got to be honest with you, sometimes I go past patrol cars and am surprised they aren't running radar at times either I/O or C/O and it does instill a inkling of doubt that maybe they're running out of tune stuff.. But yeah most probably nothing more than that though, doubt. Because otherwise I would have picked them up when I use to run KA Wide.
Yeah so maybe we need to change our mind set around setting up our detectors..

Rather than segmenting out everything the cops say they aren't using, (which i think we're doing because we believe it makes a faster detector.)
We should actually be running KA Wide, and only removing the segments we know false alert a lot.

That way if a cop car is running other gear, we'd be able to confirm it sooner due to us all scanning a wider range.
 

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I guess what i'm saying is, don't change any of your settings based on the report. We have a 2013 and a 2015 OIA request that tell us its only 34.7ghz, and we suspect that's not right. I'm expecting the same answer in 2018 too.

Having said that, it will be a bonus if they confirm other equipment this time, that would verify what most of us suspect at least.

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Yeah so maybe we need to change our mind set around setting up our detectors..

Rather than segmenting out everything the cops say they aren't using, (which i think we're doing because we believe it makes a faster detector.)
We should actually be running KA Wide, and only removing the segments we know false alert a lot.

That way if a cop car is running other gear, we'd be able to confirm it sooner due to us all scanning a wider range.
I'm actually going to do this and start logging the alerts I get.

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I decided to be a dumb ass on that TPX auction i'm watching. Instead of joining in like an expert as usual....

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LoL... let see what he tells me .

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I really like the Everyday Astronaut

You guys ever watch him ?
 

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Solid idea!

I switched to unlimited data so now I can run the EL and Waze app without caring about how much I’m using so hopefully this weekend when I head to Tauranga for D1NZ I get some hits.
Good luck with that. I just did another cop free run yesterday.

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Nothing "blocks" radar. If you did manage to build a jammer, the power output would make it illegal on it's own.
Who's going to the Commerce Commission?

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No, made my own after running USA mode (i.e. entire Ka band) for a while to see what was around. At the moment:
34.100 - 34.770
34.774 - 35.000
35.394 - 35.615 -> just in case, after seeing 35.5 but I think they were just falses

Since with JBV1 I can write a contiguous sweep, I'll probably switch soon to:
34.45 - 34.9... maybe 35.0
No 35.5 sweep

Vortex's sweeps are 34.593 - 34.833 which I think just a little narrow. I think your redline seg 6 does 34.806 - 35.166
I'm running a single sweep 34.523 - 34.899. You don't need to go wider, more chance of falsies. They're tits with crap detectors.

With the V1, running a single sweep doesn't increase range, disabling Ka guard does that. Sweeping speeds up response time to a faint burst of radar as in QT, which our cops don't do.

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Please correct me if i'm wrong, but no where in the Stalker ATR manual i have for my gun does it state the operating frequency, nor how to verify its correct. So how would they know?
I've just checked Stalker specs. They've changed them, they now refer to the frequency range as 33.4 to 36 Ghz with stability of +/- 100Mhz.
But our cops Spectrum licence is for 34.7 Ghz.
It'll be interesting to see what freqs they quote to the OIA request.

PS. The V1 sweeps the 33.8 band automatically, I've never had an alert other than Cobra falses.
 
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Hey guys, off topic a bit, but need advice... i got a ticket from a mobile camera.... damit! my trusty old Magnum STI XR is only set to KA band, too many falsies for Kband, so its time to upgrade....watching that bloody awesome Youtube upload by @Tseven007, the R3 Vs RedlineEX vs fixed camera, it was obvious that the R3 had way better detection to Kband....so is the R3 better detector to upgrade too? does the R3 have specific NZ firmware, or does it use the current US version 1.31 i think? So R3 or EX? Repco have the EX for NZ$950 at the moment, but im thinking that the R3 is a better option? thoughts??
 

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Well poo @LouG

I’m yet to have a detection on an open road. Maybe because I’ll be in a convoy of about 8 ‘boy racer’ cars maybe they’ll get tipped off
 

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Hey guys, off topic a bit, but need advice... i got a ticket from a mobile camera.... damit! my trusty old Magnum STI XR is only set to KA band, too many falsies for Kband, so its time to upgrade....watching that bloody awesome Youtube upload by @Tseven007, the R3 Vs RedlineEX vs fixed camera, it was obvious that the R3 had way better detection to Kband....so is the R3 better detector to upgrade too? does the R3 have specific NZ firmware, or does it use the current US version 1.31 i think? So R3 or EX? Repco have the EX for NZ$950 at the moment, but im thinking that the R3 is a better option? thoughts??
If you are planning on leaving K band on, I would suggest the EX, or even a V1. The R3, both US and current NZ models only go down to 24.050 on K band, so yes will give you an alert by radar or GPS for those pole cameras, but will not give you an alert for the vans which operate closer to 24.030. Your magnum STI XR should alert to those redflex as well.

Why not just turn K band on? Is your XR the band segmented model NZ/AU model? If yes, and if I am not mistaken, it should detect down to 23.950, which should pickup the mobile vans.
 

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my STI XR is getting a bit long in the tooth, and switching K band on causes lots of false detection's form door openers around town, so thats why i switched it off, but then got napped by a mobile cameras.... I dont think it has band segmentation, but will have another look at the programming tonight. I had a V1 until someone kindly broke my window and stole it, but again it was an older one with false Kband detection's so switched that off. I didnt realise that the vans had a different freq from the fixed poles, so may look at the EX as you suggested....
 

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