NZ Chat thread - Post anything related to CM

Discussion in 'Australia & New Zealand' started by Aucklandradar, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. Tseven007

    Tseven007 HP Sports Bike Rider Intermediate User Premium Member

    Messages:
    341
    Likes Received:
    333
    Country:
    New Zealand
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2017
    Location:
    The Matrix
    All these KA frequencies are a little worrying. Personally, i think i'm going to start scanning everything from 34.500ghz(approx) upwards. I was getting falsing around 33.8 when unsegmented.

    After the testing @Aucklandradar and i did a few weeks ago, i learnt that the speed/performance difference between a single segment and KA-WIDE was almost undetectable to me. Maybe on a different course, but on our botany course the change went mostly unnoticed. I'm not saying there's no benefit to segmentation, just that it might not be absolutely necessary when you weigh up the averages.
     
  2. KiwiBloke

    KiwiBloke Learning to Drive General User

    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    16
    Country:
    New Zealand
    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2017
    Location:
    New Zealand
    Hmm, I need to go back through my logs. I have seen valid 34.6xx and high 34.8xx*, so I'd rather risk the occasional false for now. Might leave the 35.5 sweep in too for purposes of gathering data
    *These numbers of course, are based on what my detector reports. Considering the nature of these devices I think "indication only" applies here.

    Oh the performance difference I'm quite convinced is negligible to non-existent in practise. The main reason to segment is to try and minimise falses from cheap radar detectors. Generally those are lower power than real police radar, but annoying when one pulls up next to you at the lights and sometimes nearly heart-attack inducing when you pass one oncoming on a nice windy hilly section of tarmac...
    34.5GHz is probably a safe enough lower limit.
     
    Tseven007 likes this.
  3. Tseven007

    Tseven007 HP Sports Bike Rider Intermediate User Premium Member

    Messages:
    341
    Likes Received:
    333
    Country:
    New Zealand
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2017
    Location:
    The Matrix
    @Aucklandradar, thats a test we could do Sunday. Segmentation differences. we do 20 runs with an EX, or ProA. 10 at full KA Wide, the 10 runs just a single segment. once we plotted 20 runs on a map the differences should be apparent.

    Posted from my SM-A510Y using the RDF Mobile App!
     
    KiwiBloke and Aucklandradar like this.
  4. Tseven007

    Tseven007 HP Sports Bike Rider Intermediate User Premium Member

    Messages:
    341
    Likes Received:
    333
    Country:
    New Zealand
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2017
    Location:
    The Matrix
    I tend to agree, it's about limiting false, not performance.

    Posted from my SM-A510Y using the RDF Mobile App!
     
  5. Aucklandradar

    Aucklandradar Premium Member Beginner User Premium Member

    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    57
    Country:
    Australia
    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Location:
    Auckland, NZ
    @Tseven007 Yeap! I agree. The more data we have the more confidence we have knowing we are probably not loosing any/much performance plus covering our asses in the case there is out of tune devices out there.

    I've got to be honest with you, sometimes I go past patrol cars and am surprised they aren't running radar at times either I/O or C/O and it does instill a inkling of doubt that maybe they're running out of tune stuff.. But yeah most probably nothing more than that though, doubt. Because otherwise I would have picked them up when I use to run KA Wide.
     
    KiwiBloke likes this.
  6. dudeinnz

    dudeinnz Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

    Messages:
    849
    Likes Received:
    836
    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2015
    Location:
    Christchurch
  7. Aucklandradar

    Aucklandradar Premium Member Beginner User Premium Member

    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    57
    Country:
    Australia
    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Location:
    Auckland, NZ
    Likewise ^^ very interesting.

    On the FYI page it says they should respond no later than today.. :)
     
  8. dudeinnz

    dudeinnz Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

    Messages:
    849
    Likes Received:
    836
    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2015
    Location:
    Christchurch
    Haha, I had that saved as a reminder on my phone to go and check!
     
  9. Tseven007

    Tseven007 HP Sports Bike Rider Intermediate User Premium Member

    Messages:
    341
    Likes Received:
    333
    Country:
    New Zealand
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2017
    Location:
    The Matrix
    they thing is though, Those police are going to release the "offical information"

    what you not going to hear about is the random couple of KA guns in each province that is mysteriously outside of its specified frequency.

    P.C.Plod really has no idea whats in the street, they've been told at purchasing they're getting stalkers, and that's what they got. Please correct me if i'm wrong, but no where in the Stalker ATR manual i have for my gun does it state the operating frequency, nor how to verify its correct. So how would they know?

    I guess what i'm saying is, don't change any of your settings based on the report. We have a 2013 and a 2015 OIA request that tell us its only 34.7ghz, and we suspect that's not right. I'm expecting the same answer in 2018 too.

    Having said that, it will be a bonus if they confirm other equipment this time, that would verify what most of us suspect at least.
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 13, 2018, Original Post Date: Feb 13, 2018 ---
    Yeah so maybe we need to change our mind set around setting up our detectors..

    Rather than segmenting out everything the cops say they aren't using, (which i think we're doing because we believe it makes a faster detector.)
    We should actually be running KA Wide, and only removing the segments we know false alert a lot.

    That way if a cop car is running other gear, we'd be able to confirm it sooner due to us all scanning a wider range.
     
    Aucklandradar likes this.
  10. spudtatoe

    spudtatoe Learning to Fly Beginner User

    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    23
    Country:
    New Zealand
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2017
    Location:
    Auckland, NZ
    had a ka34.786 on my way home.. cop looked at me and then his radar switched off LOL

    upload_2018-2-14_18-40-14.
     
    KiwiBloke and dudeinnz like this.
  11. Aucklandradar

    Aucklandradar Premium Member Beginner User Premium Member

    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    57
    Country:
    Australia
    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Location:
    Auckland, NZ
    Hahah nice. Why do you think he switched it off after looking at you? Did he see your RD?

    Posted from my SM-G950F using the RDF Mobile App!
     
  12. Aucklandradar

    Aucklandradar Premium Member Beginner User Premium Member

    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    57
    Country:
    Australia
    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Location:
    Auckland, NZ
    I'm actually going to do this and start logging the alerts I get.

    Posted from my SM-G950F using the RDF Mobile App!
     
  13. spudtatoe

    spudtatoe Learning to Fly Beginner User

    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    23
    Country:
    New Zealand
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2017
    Location:
    Auckland, NZ
    No idea :p

    Would've been hard to see the RD through all the rain and my wipers I would've thought. He drove off soon after.
     
  14. Tseven007

    Tseven007 HP Sports Bike Rider Intermediate User Premium Member

    Messages:
    341
    Likes Received:
    333
    Country:
    New Zealand
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2017
    Location:
    The Matrix
    I decided to be a dumb ass on that TPX auction i'm watching. Instead of joining in like an expert as usual....

    upload_2018-2-14_21-5-34.

    LoL... let see what he tells me .
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 14, 2018, Original Post Date: Feb 14, 2018 ---
    I really like the Everyday Astronaut

    You guys ever watch him ?
     
  15. LouG

    LouG PSL +5 Intermediate User

    Messages:
    789
    Likes Received:
    438
    Country:
    Australia
    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2014
    Good luck with that. I just did another cop free run yesterday.
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 14, 2018, Original Post Date: Feb 14, 2018 ---
    Nothing "blocks" radar. If you did manage to build a jammer, the power output would make it illegal on it's own.
    Who's going to the Commerce Commission?
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 14, 2018 ---
    I'm running a single sweep 34.523 - 34.899. You don't need to go wider, more chance of falsies. They're tits with crap detectors.

    With the V1, running a single sweep doesn't increase range, disabling Ka guard does that. Sweeping speeds up response time to a faint burst of radar as in QT, which our cops don't do.
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 14, 2018 ---
    I've just checked Stalker specs. They've changed them, they now refer to the frequency range as 33.4 to 36 Ghz with stability of +/- 100Mhz.
    But our cops Spectrum licence is for 34.7 Ghz.
    It'll be interesting to see what freqs they quote to the OIA request.

    PS. The V1 sweeps the 33.8 band automatically, I've never had an alert other than Cobra falses.
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2018
    Tseven007 likes this.
  16. At0mic9

    At0mic9 Learning to Drive General User

    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Country:
    New Zealand
    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2018
    Location:
    Auckland
    Hey guys, off topic a bit, but need advice... i got a ticket from a mobile camera.... damit! my trusty old Magnum STI XR is only set to KA band, too many falsies for Kband, so its time to upgrade....watching that bloody awesome Youtube upload by @Tseven007, the R3 Vs RedlineEX vs fixed camera, it was obvious that the R3 had way better detection to Kband....so is the R3 better detector to upgrade too? does the R3 have specific NZ firmware, or does it use the current US version 1.31 i think? So R3 or EX? Repco have the EX for NZ$950 at the moment, but im thinking that the R3 is a better option? thoughts??
     
  17. spudtatoe

    spudtatoe Learning to Fly Beginner User

    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    23
    Country:
    New Zealand
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2017
    Location:
    Auckland, NZ
    Well poo @LouG

    I’m yet to have a detection on an open road. Maybe because I’ll be in a convoy of about 8 ‘boy racer’ cars maybe they’ll get tipped off
     
  18. dudeinnz

    dudeinnz Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

    Messages:
    849
    Likes Received:
    836
    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2015
    Location:
    Christchurch
    If you are planning on leaving K band on, I would suggest the EX, or even a V1. The R3, both US and current NZ models only go down to 24.050 on K band, so yes will give you an alert by radar or GPS for those pole cameras, but will not give you an alert for the vans which operate closer to 24.030. Your magnum STI XR should alert to those redflex as well.

    Why not just turn K band on? Is your XR the band segmented model NZ/AU model? If yes, and if I am not mistaken, it should detect down to 23.950, which should pickup the mobile vans.
     
  19. At0mic9

    At0mic9 Learning to Drive General User

    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Country:
    New Zealand
    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2018
    Location:
    Auckland
    my STI XR is getting a bit long in the tooth, and switching K band on causes lots of false detection's form door openers around town, so thats why i switched it off, but then got napped by a mobile cameras.... I dont think it has band segmentation, but will have another look at the programming tonight. I had a V1 until someone kindly broke my window and stole it, but again it was an older one with false Kband detection's so switched that off. I didnt realise that the vans had a different freq from the fixed poles, so may look at the EX as you suggested....
     
  20. Aucklandradar

    Aucklandradar Premium Member Beginner User Premium Member

    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    57
    Country:
    Australia
    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Location:
    Auckland, NZ
    Slightly Off topic again - @LouG Good on you for following up on the FYI request.
    Good emails.
     
    LouG and dudeinnz like this.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 0 (Users: 0, Guests: 0)