$6500 to install AL-P???

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  1. wrxsti15

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    math doesn't add up...
    You said $2900 for system and then 24h at $85 per hour...

    As per that they are only charging $2040 for install... or I'm reading this wrong?

    With risk involved working on such expensive car ... $2000 is pretty good deal if you ask me... but if installation alone is $6500... that is insane even they work on Boing 747...

    I would most likely go to some audio shop and get cpu installed and wires trough firewall... and deal with sensors myself...

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    Did you count 3 days x 24 hours x $85? that is how I got to $6120...
    It should be 3 days x 8h = 24h x $85 = $2040...
     
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    Well that rate is generally per person. They could have a team working on it for multiple days.
     
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    If he told him 24 hours at $85 per hour... No matter how many people work on it, that should be the price... I cannot imagine quoting my customers 30 hours and telling them later you know what I had 3 guys working on this job... You tell customer hours to get job done, they don't care if you had 3 guys working on it one day , or one guy working 3 days...
     
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    hammerdown No half measures.... Advanced User

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    Granted I'm slightly "automotively inclined" as I've been through auto mechanics in votech back through high school and am the son of an auto mechanic and have always worked on my cars.

    I've been working on my ALP system for almost 2 weeks now... granted I could already be done if I wasn't taking some extra measures on a few things like the head mounting, but there's no way in hell Id pay somebody to install the system it's not that hard. Getting the heads level on straight is probably the hardest part but if you know how to work a level it's not that big of a deal. ALP did an awesome job with the brackets that allow for easy adjustments.

    Almost all these new cars nowadays have big gigantic grommets in the firewall that you can easily fish wires through with a coat hanger and a little electrical tape.

    The hardest thing even for a novice to do is find a switched accessory source to tap into it with a simple $3 fuse tap from O'Reilly's and looking in the owner's manual it's really not that hard to find.
     
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    Not at all
    The rate is used to pay everyone
    The workers only make $15/hr if that
    $85/hr labor sounds low for this type of shop
    I charge $45/hr and make around $30 after expenses but no brick and mortar overhead
     
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    The most important part is seeing the work the shop does. If there are a lot of Porsches, Lambos, Ferraris in the shop, they must be doing something right. Ask for customer references and call them and ask them how happy they are with the work. Ferraris are different animals, and the work and care needed would be high. I'd be willing to pay the price if I knew they would do the job right without any issues (to include customizing) - that is why getting customers reviews are important. You might want to ask the same question on Ferrari forums to see what they might have to say or try the local Ferrari club. Good luck - keep us posted on what happens.
     
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    The shop I go to does mostly high-end work (Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche, McLaren, AMG) and they would charge $100 per sensor/antenna plus $200-400 for the interior stuff depending on how you want everything mounted. So you would be looking at around $4000 plus tax.

    It does not take 3-4 days. If they are taking that time, either they have never done a Ferrari before and need to research it, or they keeping your car hostage to play with it and justify their price. I wouldn't use them.

    My shop has done loads of 488s. One of my buddies has done 2 488s with them alone. That is the kind of shop you want. They know what they're doing, have pics to prove it, and will get the shop done efficiently but properly.
     
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    CarTunes in Atlanta was going to charge me $800 to install a 6 head system on my Ford Edge. Granted, it's only a $40k car vs a $200k car. But, they work on all the high end vehicles also. It seems to me that install price is high. Fortunately, I found a local shop that does high tech stereo and electronic installs to intall my system. Getting it done later today for no more than $500.
     
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    Everyone has a different opinion on a fair price for installing remote mount systems, but I can say that after installing mine in my 2017 Jeep, I would not even consider doing it for someone for under $1200 and that would be for an easy vehicle. If I had to touch a $200K vehicle, it would not be for $1200 and I would insist on custom printed brackets and a flush mount control pad (which means cutting factory plastic inside the vehicle) and custom hidden but exposed speakers. That would easily be about $5K or more. But yeah, I know a guy that will do it for $200 if you trust your $200K car to him.
     
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    You can always find something cheaper, and more expensive does not always mean better. No matter who it is, its important to talk to installer, see the work, get references, and keep lines of communication open (with photos) as work is being done. If I had a Ferrari, I'd feel more at ease seeing a lot of high end cars in the shop,but I would still do my due diligence.
     
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    If it's going to take 3-4 days to install they probably have no idea of what they are doing, No matter how high end a shop they are.
     
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    I disagree. I have seen many posts where high-end shops (who put the entire vehicle on a leveling device) spend several days on a very nice custom install.
     
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    Sure, i guess if they are doing some super specialised custom options and modifying from scratch, but even then. I have installed entire ALP systems in 4 hours. My local high end custom shop at most takes 1.5 days with customisation, but they do a lot of ALP's and high end cars daily.

    And a leveling device? That's a stretch, but if it allows them to charge more i guess why not. lol
     
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    It took me 12 hours to do mine all custom

    Posted from my Spaceship ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Cartunes pricing is the same regardless of what vehicle they are working on. The price they quoted you for your Edge is the same as for my Mercedes-AMG E63S and for my Porsche 911 Turbo S. They do work to a similarly high standard regardless of the model.
     
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    Leveling device? Isn't that a gimmicky term for a lift?
     
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    agreed. Ive probably got that in mine, working a few hours here and there, but im doing some pretty custom stuff too. If I just mounted the sensors per the guidelines, ran the wires and hooked up a non custom system... 4 hours. I do have a very easy vehicle though. A Ferrari would be a lot harder than an Expedition... lol.

    The hours doesnt seem as unreasonable to me as the price...
     
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    So for clarity, the car is about $350k. Not sure that it matters, but to me it's a decent amount of car more.

    The shop has never done a Ferrari as I'm about the only person for a long distance that has one, but he does have some amazing videos of installs. He has worked on lots of porsches, AM'S, lots of expensive hot rods, and so on. The work I've seen has been very high end and he has tons of great reviews.

    Also, my assistant called Ferrari of Seattle and asked what shop they recommend. Then, she called that shop for the product and price. They recommended the Escort Max 360CI. They suggested 2 shifters up front and two in the rear. Installed with everything, the price was $6340, and they said it'd take 2 guys 2 days.

    Seems like this is about the price in looking at with this type of job.

    Do you guys think the AL-P system is better than the Escort?
     
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    Most cars are the same
    But exotics are different
    For instance this vehicle is 300k new
    And is over 200k in value now
    I charged 25% over on small service and up to 100% more on all day service

    20180213_121530.
     
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    My guess is they are just padding the price since they are unsure of how hard it will be, but experienced enough that they can do it.

    The 2nd shop sounds like they at least know a little bit about a jammer installs and 2 days is more logical.

    Max 360 is a good system, but the ALP's are still superior.
     
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