Spectre Elite vs. Remotes: Stinger VIP, Max Ci 360, Net Radar DSP, Radenso RC M

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  1. Vortex

    Vortex Making Videos Administrator Advanced User Premium Member

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    Here's the drive-by Spectre test runs with the Max Ci and the Net Radar DSP. Both were fully RDD immune in my testing.





    The RC M I'll put together and post tomorrow. :)
     
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    Appreciate the test on the DSP and others. When you get the time, would a test with the DSP at RVM height be on the table, and maybe other for those of us not placing in the bumper level?
     
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    I was able to do that with the RC M actually since I had a second antenna for the rear. I tested different heights for the antenna, tried it behind my bumper, and so on. I would have done the same thing with the NR DSP, but I only had one antenna and it's a bit of a pain to pull the antenna to try all sorts of different locations once it's in. Once I finish with the Spectre though, I'll send it out and others can do some tests as well.
     
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    VariableWave Learning to Fly Beginner User

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    I completely understand that scenario, since each remote utilized various connections unlike the other and the limitations of equipment, vs WS units that are sporting RJ11s at this time . Looking forward to those from others for this, and yours as well when available.
     
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    Should be up soonish.

    Just gotta find a few minutes spare to do it.
     
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    good information to pass on, thank you
     
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    Are their variances in the detection distances within the same model of detectors? Are there more or less sensitive Spectre out there on the streets?

    We know some detectors have better range within the same models, so it is possible some have a mfg variance related to being detectable, especially with a hot spectre unit?
     
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    good questions...
     
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    I wonder too. It’s hard to know with so few Spectres out there. It wasn’t very long ago that we had virtually no data on the new detectors. Just some old YouTube videos from Australia. :) We could definitely use more sample data.

    Spectres are basically just radar detectors tuned to pick up different frequencies. Looking at RD testing, I'd assume things would be similar with Spectres meaning there will be some slight differences with hotter or colder copies, but they'll all be pretty comparable. It won't be like comparing Redlines and Cobras, you know? They should all be pretty similar in theory.

    As far as detector variances, I’ve tested 3 Uniden R series detectors and they all alerted within 1 foot of one another.

    I’ve also tested 3 original Net Radar antennas. I don’t remember the results off the top of my head, but here’s the video:

     
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    Well, that's not exactly true. The chance of either the DSP or RC M being picked up by the Spectre Elite in a real life situation is slim to none. However, the Spectre Elite was not purpose built to pick up the NR DSP or RC M. The more interesting question is: can a RDD be purpose built to detect those devices, such that the chance of it picking them up in a real life situation could be problematic? In order to know this, we'd have to get a spectrum analyzer and attach it to an antenna, and move it around the area.
     
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    Yeah, how do we get our hands on a Radar detector detector detector?




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    Cobra has that App for that, and one of the 20 bands added to their detectors:rolleyes:
     
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    To answer the question about Hot and cold RDDs.

    Yes there is a difference.

    I've owned about 5 units over the years and I can confirm there can be a huge difference.

    The spectre is custom built to order and adjusted per departments requirements, some detect anything and everything while others only detect closer in.

    Eg one unit detected stinger at 1 foot while another detected it at 4-5 feet.

    So yes there can be a difference, this is why it's good to have many points of data to work out the average.

    Ps attached is a teaser photo for my up and coming tests of the dsp.


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    We can't talk about heresy like that because then they will have a radar detector detector detector detector. :catdrugs::awesomelon:
     
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    Wouldn't too much sensitivity or detecting everything cause falses just like RDs?

    Posted from my Spaceship ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Correct, it can false to other things eg wifi pulses from a mobile or the LO of an amateur radio.

    It's down to how keen the departments are on catching RD users.
     
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    I have never ever seen this happen on a spectre elite with max sensitivity and Filtering turned off

    Posted from my SM-G930W8 using the RDF Mobile App!
     
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    You forgot I have a direct contact with Spectre.

    Hello I live in the same town as his company.

    I have copies of the notifications re interference from transmitting devices, mobiles pinging for wifi etc.

    The finer details I won't discuss in a public section but safe to say there is a few sub models with different levels of detection and RF compliance depending on the location.
     
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    If there is anything you can provide in a new elevated post (the intermediate level for both you and @angrypenguin ) it may be worthwhile for others as well!
     
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    Alrighty, and here's the video with the RC M:



    A single antenna up front should be just fine. If you have a second antenna in the rear for arrows and an officer pulls up close behind you, if everything is aligned right, it is possible for him to pick up the RC M.
     
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