R1 lost off axis detection

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  1. Andy Red

    Andy Red Learning to Fly Beginner User

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    After 3 weeks of use it seems my R1 completely lost off axis detection.

    Tested again today the same way as I initially did, with a K band speed camera radar on 24.131 C/O, no traffic at all, and no peep off axis, it only started going on when front facing the camera radar.

    Range is not impacted in any way but no off axis detection at all.

    Did any of you encounter this?
     
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    The Only Sarge 7 decades of hauling ass Advanced User

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    I would never use a speed camera as my testing benchmark friend. They often have variable power/frequency and are not a stable platform to test anything reliably.
    Where are you at anyway? i dont recognize the flag.Ahh nevermind Romania.
    How are you configured?
     
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    Nothing variable about this camera since it's the same frequency 24.131 and range 1.8miles, every time I drive trough.
    Setup is everything off except K band: K wide
     
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    OK....If that is what you want to test against by all means...but when power fluctuates signal fluctuates so be aware.
    How are you configured? HWY/ADV/CTY etc?
    Where is the detector located on your windshield?
    Are their buildings/hills/trees around in that environment?
     
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    Honestly there's no such thing. The horn didn't suddenly change shape.

    If you believe there's a change in the experience around a single speed sign, there's a different explanation. There's a very long list of possibilities, and we don't have enough info to speculate on any of them, but none of the are a detector losing off-axis detection. Either it's detecting signals or it's not.
     
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    Highway, center low on the windshield, there are buildings.

    Probably I was not very clear at first, same course and detector settings as several times before where I had initially off axis detection, I don't have it anymore.
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    The horn didn't change shape but perhaps the firmware has a bug and it's the culprit in this case.

    Very weird that this coincided exactly with the change from K wide to K narrow.

    And it's not a speed sign, it's a speed camera which serves tickets directly through mail.
     
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    What Deacon said I agree totally. Dont care what brand of detector we are talking about. Various BSM filtering etc. If your in wide or narrow are you saying it changes?
     
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    No, I mean firmware can't change the physics of light. Either it's funneled into the horn, or it's not. There is no try, so to speak. And changing from Wide to Narrow changes how much of the spectrum it evaluates and will alert to, not wide on the horizon or narrow like blinders.

    Great, that's good to know, but again without more information it's difficult to say definitively that there can be no fluctuation in output or tweaks to its operation. More importantly, the environment plays a big factor in something like off-axis detection of weak directional signals. When you drove the route you're concerned about, maybe there was a vehicle in the right place to help channel reflections to the horn, or whatever else.

    You do not simply lose off-axis detection.
     
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    This one would be a first for me. As long as I have building antenna's I have NEVER had one lose directionality either on transmit or receive unless there was a physical alteration of the design or something impeding the signal from reaching the antenna.
     
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    As long as I've been developing software I've seen a lot of crappy bugs appearing when you are less expecting based on different settings combo, certain key press patterns and so on as every algorithm is far from perfect.
    Since hardware is functioning and the detection range is unchanged that leads me to believe something happened on the firmware side.
    I will try a factory reset and if it doesn't fix it then a reflash.
     
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    It would be a good idea to do a factory reset from the menu. Make sure you are in Highway mode and K Wide and that you do not have it as a Mute Memory (e.g. lockout) location, and see what you get.
     
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    Good luck with the reset.
     
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    What part of Romania are you in and what are you using as a reference?? Specifically, what type of gun is hitting your Uniden?? TrafficCam, Gatso, Redflex, ATS.

    You have a "'Rovinieta" for that thing??
     
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    Your trying to say firmware "in all your experience" can change the hardware and physics? Firmware merely takes the information the hardware provides it and translates that data. If you get the signal straight forward and not off axis that aint firmware that is environment or bullshit. That simple. What software type you develop anyway that has these magical powers? Like saying I wrote software that changes sunlight.
     
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    My R3's off axis detection has been greatly improved since last firmware update. The forward detection range is equal to the rear detection range. :p
     
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    I've reflashed the magical uniden firmware, afterwards a factory reset and the issue is now solved, so thread can be closed from my point of view.

    @ The Only Sarge now you can start writing that software which changes the sunlight ;)
     
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    ooooooohhh... so THAT is the difference between "wide" and narrow" settings....who'd have thunk? *forehead slap*
     
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    wide allows you to detector LEOs that are 'wider out' on your left and right ... narrow only lets you detect LEOs in that narrow range in front of you
     
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    LOL...that is what I thought :)
    If you have it turned off in the frequency range your trying to get it to see....guess what?!
     
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    Whenever I think something squirrelly is going on I usually pull out the Redline to compare against. That thing has always been dependable.
     
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