Netradar DSP install problem?

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  1. infiniti

    infiniti Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

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    At the risk of throwing a wrench into your install, but in the interest of giving you max protection while your car is in the shop, @BestRadarDetectors , would you recommend one TX and one RX with this setup? rather than the two RX heads on the rear?
     
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    I'd say maybe but only if you could get the TX at least 20" of the ground
     
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    Good point. Maybe top of license plate area would be 20" off. In that case, could simply add on to the back setup (with a splitter...using existing wires) a TX above the plate and leave the two RXs where they are. I'd feel much more confident in that setup, personally.
     
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    Test the system. What is the distance from one of the sensors to the outside of the tail light? If there are issues you can just separate them a bit I would think.
     
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    A really nice car with a great selection of CM's, the only problem you have are the installers that are not familiar with this setup. Its very hard to find shops who specialize in this and really know what they are doing. As many have said already, get this system tested ASAP. I went big on my rear setup by having a shop cut into my bumper and making custom laser cut brackets. Your car is much nicer than mine so I would understand not wanting to go that route :)
     
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    They're gonna move the Netradar DSP over to this new position on the driver's side with standoffs above another sensor (alarm sensor). It's just about the only possible place, as the bodywork is so curvy and "shrink-wrapped" there is simply no space. It'll be behind the plastic bumper. Passenger side, same place, there's an OEM antenna already for the car and we want to keep it away from that. P1110055s.
     
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    That should work well as long as the alarm sensor doesnt' cause interference. It will probably be okay though.
     
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    malaigo Learning to Drive General User

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    Install was completed. It took a while: car went in Monday, got it back on Friday. Friday evening I drove around my town between 12-1am: lots of radar (Ka and K), stationary K band on sign and three cops in ambush mode. No lidar used as far as I can tell, but system falsed on front lidar (red led) when I passed the Honeywell Systems plant in both directions for some reason. There was a small install error: front sensors were plugged into F2 and F3. USB drive updated firmware plus installed 3 profiles as suggested in the manual. Otherwise I can't detect anything else wrong. Hifi unit first:
    P1130084s.
    In this car you sit just 5" or so above the tarmac.
    Front of car (Net radar DSP, not visible, behind plastic):
    P1130074s.
    Rear of car (sensors 17.5" off the ground, but 20" from lights):
    P1130072s.
     
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    Looks clean. There's a reason that many on this thread have suggested to get it tested. I drove around for several years with a laser system and was completely vulnerable to most of the guns out there. Nothing worse than a false sense of confidence in counter measures. Could be due to recessed, misaligned, defective heads...loose cables, wrong ports, etc.

    You may want to check with your shop to ask them if they can help you test it with a real lidar gun or if they would be willing to modify the placement of heads if you fail lidar tests conducted with a forum member.

    Good luck and enjoy!
     
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    Net radar DSP mounted to driver's side with standoffs and a metal plate to offset it (it was 1" too far forward before). Original (hits bumper):
    IMG_4998s.
    With plate to offset it backwards an inch (barely clear the curve of the bumper):
    IMG_5003s.
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    Thanks! A forum member is offering to test it tomorrow!
     
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    That's fantastic. Good luck. By the way, that's a sweet ride!
     
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    For the record, the ALP brackets for the front sensors were bent 90 degrees and attached to an existing bolt.
    P1110056s.
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    The rear bracket was bent 180 degrees and "clips in" around the lip of rear bumper. The rear bumper was carefully slotted (avoid the painted area by 1mm).
    P1110061s.
     
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    awesome, good luck in testing tomorrow. car looks great and AZ is a good home for it.
     
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    This install makes me nervous. Those lights have a huge curvature to them and may pose risks during an encounter. There's not really a better place for them, but you may consider a TX head around the hood. Don't put it off. GET TESTED ASAP!

    I'm not very familiar with Arizona or which guns are used, but I'm hoping nothing too difficult. Going back to my first point, what's the distance from the sensor to the EDGE of the light? I believe with even a perfect install you may still face difficulties.

    And lastly, the NR DSP is behind the bumper now? It's a good thing you got it moved from behind the grill. Super clean looking install!
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    Glad you're getting tested. If the results aren't what you like, you could install a TX sensor beside the badge. That would most likely make you bulletproof and hopefully high enough up. Let us know how it goes!
     
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    Unfortunately, I guess behind the badge won't work. It's metal.
     
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    install looks pretty good man. Make sure to get it tested as others have said to be sure.
    Saying that, will you be using BT or your HIfi controller to kill your system? The only reason i am asking is it looks like your control pad is under your parking brake handle looks that looks to be in the up position. With it down does it allow you to reach your control pad when you need to kill your parking sensors?
     
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    Good point.
    Press any button while being targeted to kill the sensors?
    If so, I can reach either button.

    I can't really reach both at the same time easily to adjust volume;
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    Yup on the driver's side.

    I have an old 9500ci installed on my crossover (2010). That was an in-expensive install.

    There may be no way to get a good stealthy install on this kind of car. But the installer spent many hours on this and probably did his level best. Suggestions from this forum have helped a lot. But we'll see tomorrow during testing if it's a failure.
     
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    Its going to fail
    If it goes up against a proper gamut of guns

    But thats okay because you can add sensors and adjust
     
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    Ok, yea so if using the control pad any button will kill the system. Did you purchase the Bluetooth module also?. I thought it looked like you did in this picture [​IMG]
    The only reason im asking about that is it makes creating profiles and adjusting your setting super easy. Not only that but you can kill your system by just tapping the screen on a dedicated phone for your system. Also for the DSP antenna this is how you lockout or "suppress" false signals.. If you dont use BT you cannot lockout falses. And lastly with BT is makes downloading the latest updates very easy. A couple of the updates occasionally will still need a USB stick depending on what type of update it is, but for the most common updates, you will be able to update the system through your phone with BT.

    And just clarify what Choose Life has said, you will have Insant Punch through's from the front "if" you are tagged against the latest of the VPRR guns, but if you dont have those around you should perform very well. (Front and back)
     
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    TSS definitely and possibly regular Truspeed and Stalker XLR as well
     

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