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  1. omgboost

    omgboost Left Lane Hog Security Attaché Advanced User Premium Member

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    I want an S6 but I'm worried about the repair and maintenance costs of the Germans. I've visited Audiworld and Audizine to see if there are any complaints from current owners.
     
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    Depends on the price and the car.... I got a great deal on a S5 a few months ago. 2015 Less than 10K Miles, All options I wanted (including Black Optics) CPO and was less than $40K.

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    We have an SQ5, S4 and S5 along with a few other VW/Audis, but those 3 have the 3.0 supercharged.

    I have APR and EPL tunes. The S4 is manual, but the S5 and SQ5 has EPL tune and DSG tune. I love both of the cars and should have sold the S4, but cannot give it up.
    The tunes have been excellent from both places and I have no complaints. I prefer EPL as the power is similar (probably a little lower with APR, but hard to tell as they have different transmissions and different stages), but I can reflash to stock quickly for the cars that still have warranty on. I also don't have to leave my car with some strange characters to get the flash done and get charged an hour of shop time while they joyride around in it.

    The price for EPL was much lower, even with the flashing cables I think it was about 50% of the costs for the APR tune. I can understand why someone would not want to change the pulley themselves, but you can pay someone to do that and flash your own software. APR has the ultracharger, but EPL is working on a larger throttle body also.

    If you get the tune, get the DSG reflash also. That is what raises the redlines on the B8.5s to what the B8s have.

    Very happy with Chris' support at EPL also, I had a problem last year and he got back to me quickly and fixed the flashing issue.

    I think you would be happy with any of the tunes, they seem fairly similar and give a good bump from stock that is quite noticeable.
     
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    We have an SQ5, S4 and S5 along with a few other VW/Audis, but those 3 have the 3.0 supercharged.

    I have APR and EPL tunes. The S4 is manual, but the S5 and SQ5 has EPL tune and DSG tune. I love both of the cars and should have sold the S4, but cannot give it up.
    The tunes have been excellent from both places and I have no complaints. I prefer EPL as the power is similar (probably a little lower with APR, but hard to tell as they have different transmissions and different stages), but I can reflash to stock quickly for the cars that still have warranty on. I also don't have to leave my car with some strange characters to get the flash done and get charged an hour of shop time while they joyride around in it.

    The price for EPL was much lower, even with the flashing cables I think it was about 50% of the costs for the APR tune. I can understand why someone would not want to change the pulley themselves, but you can pay someone to do that and flash your own software. APR has the ultracharger, but EPL is working on a larger throttle body also.

    If you get the tune, get the DSG reflash also. That is what raises the redlines on the B8.5s to what the B8s have.

    Very happy with Chris' support at EPL also, I had a problem last year and he got back to me quickly and fixed the flashing issue.

    I think you would be happy with any of the tunes, they seem fairly similar and give a good bump from stock that is quite noticeable.
     
  4. Vehicle 1

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    Thanks again for all the input, very much appreciated!

    @samq45 , I though there was no tune for the tiptronic transmissions in SQ5s (other than SQ5s diesels and manuals in Europe with s-tronics?), so when you say get the DSG reflash, what models are you referring to, s-tronic transmission equipped models? I am not too knowledgeable with this stuff yet so I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
    The crank pulley on these cars seem to fail more commonly than the SC pulley, so AFAIK by replacing the crank pulley and not the SC pulley you can kill two birds with one stone, it keeps the install for stage 2 simpler (I will be doing it myself), and replaces a weaker OEM component that might fail.
    My wife is 100% ok with the SQ5, so excited about this car!
     
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    I forgot we were talking about the SQ5, I don't have a tune on the ZF8 transmission , only the DL501 in the S5. I think they are working on a tune as the new S4/s5s come with the ZF 8 speed transmissions, but they are having a hard time cracking the encryption on the new B9 models. I did do the Ross Tech Upshift mod that is on APRs website for the SQ5.

    The pulleys usually only fails under Stage II or higher. You can either replace the crank pulley or bolt another one on top of the stock one (not sure if you can bolt over the OEM one on the SQ5, but I think you can with an APR one) I did the Supercharger pulley only on the S4, it was not bad other than having to have the puller tools and heat it up, I need a better clutch before I add the crank pulley. They can and will measure both pulley's if there is any warranty claim, so I will hold off on replacing any pulleys on the S5 until I use most of the warranty.
     
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    Gotcha.
    I most likely will end up with a 2015, hopefully under 40k miles... Makes sense to wait a bit for stage 2 and do stage 1 with home flashing in the meantime...
     
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    By the way, I found out EPL does supercharged engines ONLY.
     
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    Well, ok, let me be very specific: they do not touch the 2.0T.
     
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    thanks for all of your thoughts. I'll take my girlfriend to test drive an A5 after I get back.
     
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    Audi's are expensive to maintain and if you have a heavy foot, definitely do not get any turbos as it will pass oil (which is true with any turbos from my understanding - applies to automatic cars not manual). Superchargers are much better for a heavy foot where it only depletes the oil level and you can just tap up. My only complaint with Audi so far.

    Audi 2014 Q5 V6 owner.
     
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