Sad story from last night

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  1. OpenRoad

    OpenRoad Must go faster Advanced User Premium Member

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    I was on my way to the annual Christmas lights boat parade in Santa Cruz Harbor, had my scanner running as usual.

    Then I heard this come over the radio... Hit and run pedestrian. A few minutes later CHP calling for coroner. This was just a few blocks from my destination and all hell broke loose of the radio. Impact was so hard the cars plate fell off. They ran the plates, staked out the house, driver arrested maybe 2 hours later. DUI hit and run, manslaughter. 21 year old girl drunk and driving 60 in a 35 zone hits 86 year old lady in crosswalk. She was walking with her daughter who was able to see the car coming and moved away fast enough, but not mom. Now the girl is in jail on $500,000 bail and is facing years in prison.

    www.ksbw.com: 86-year-old woman killed in Soquel hit-and-run
     
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    Bad situation all the way around. With the easy access to Uber and Lyft these days in most areas there is no excuse for it.
     
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    The Only Sarge 7 decades of hauling ass Beginner User

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    So sad. No excuse for driving ****faced. None. Multiple lifes were destroyed here over driving faced. Stupid in the highest order.
     
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    Wow... I can't imagine what the little girls family is going though. Such a selfish/senseless act. RIP to grandma, I hope the DUI driver gets all she deserves
     
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    Dang, I wonder what the culprit's BAC was at the time of the crash. She apparently still had alcohol in her system 2 hours later.
     
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    Sad news indeed.
     
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    In FL, that'll get you a minimum 7-10......even with no Priors. (assuming conviction of course).

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    This is why I tell my kids: Uber is cheap! Use it!!
     
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    The fact that she was not found at the scene but 2 hours later will complicate things for the state. They need to prove she was intoxicated at the time of the accident. She could say "I was so upset I hit the old lady I went home and got drunk."
     
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    erickonphoenix I never lose, I only run out of laps, gas or time. Advanced User Premium Member

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    She'll probably be ok. If it's a first time offenses it will be expensive but she should get off with probation. Now the civil suit if that takes place will be a whole nother deal.

    BTW, WTF is a 21 yo girl drunk in CA? I thought they all smoke weed now? Here in SETX my daughter is 22 and at least prior to her pregnancy she was all about the weed, she'd never touch alcohol. She said it was "old balls" whatever that means.
     
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    It means we are getting old!
     
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    erickonphoenix I never lose, I only run out of laps, gas or time. Advanced User Premium Member

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    Yeah... figured. Like when I asked her to friend me on FB and she laughed at me then said "Facebook is for parents talking politics"
     
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    even if they cant prove the DUI, she still left the scene of an injury / death accident without rendering aid. Here in OK, that is a felony that will net you a 2-10 year stint... they prove she was hauling ass, 2nd degree manslaughter, they prove the DUI, 1st degree manslaughter, she could be facing 20 in....

    surely FL isnt that much different. This chick still (should) be doing some hard time.
     
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    This is why
    True and they need to put her beinhd the wheel, which unless she admitted it or they have it on vid, it may be difficult. Most likely she admitted it, they almost always do. Still, she could say she hit something, didnt realize it and went home and started drinking at home as @XDA stated. Putting her 1. Behind the wheel at the time and 2. Her blood alcohol level BAC at time of incident MUST be proved.

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    They use extrapolation tables for that @STS134 ,BUT it doent alleviate the fact they they (state prosecutor) have to prove beyond and to the exclusion of a reasonable doubt that at the time of the incident/accident that she was .08 or greater and they may have a hard time doing that. There's a LOT the defense can chew on at this point .
     
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    Ouch! I can relate.
     
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    That's terrible. Truly sad to hear. Hope that idiot B&tch spends a long time in jail
     
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    They use extrapolation tables for that @STS134 ,BUT it doent alleviate the fact they they have to prove beyond and to teh exclusion of a reasonable doubt that at the time of the incident/accident that she was .08 or greater and they may have a hard time doing that. There's a LOT the defense can chew on at this point .
    But can they put her behind the wheel and at that time was she intoxicated to the extent that her normal faculties were impaired?? They can tell you what she was doing 2 hours after incident though, just not at time of incident.
     
  18. OpenRoad

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    In California the DA has 3 days to file charges after an arrest, and looks like they are tossing everything her way. Even something I didn't know existed in CA:

    Court filings I looked up from today.

    PC12011.7(c) Any person who personally inflicts great bodily injury on a person who is 70 years of age or older, other than an accomplice, in the commission of a felony or attempted felony shall be punished by an additional and consecutive term of imprisonment in the state prison for five years.

    She also has 2 prior DUIs, which is going to be the compelling part of this. She's likely looking at 5 years in state prison, which means 3 1/2 years actual time. I found the victims Facebook page.. she was a local from the get-go, went to Santa Cruz High School in the 1940's.

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    da.
     
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    Again I don't know about the state that she's in but in Oklahoma you leaving the scene like that in of itself is a felony. intoxication has nothing to do with it. If she was speeding or committed any other traffic offense then it's going to be negligent homicide or manslaughter. They don't have to prove the DUI part to nail her to the wall on this deal.

    If she was driving 15- 20 miles an hour over the speed limit when she hit this lady she's probably screwed. Any car newer than about 2004 will tell the police all they need to know about how fast it was going whenever it collided, airbags going off or not. Anything 2013 or newer can yield up to 42 pages worth of data from the crash data recorder in the airbag module. It will tell them what gear the car was in, the RPMs of the cars engine, how much percentage of the throttle the driver was giving, at what point the driver hit the brake if the driver did hit the brake, the speed of the vehicle up to 5 seconds before impact, what airbags went off and what ones didn't, which seats were occupied, and which ones weren't, which seat belts are on and which ones weren't, if turn signals were turned on or lights, if the car had any engine service lights, and a multitude of other stuff that would just mind-boggle you, like a "crash pulse" that will actually show you the speed of whatever the car hit. Some of the really new cars are even starting to report steering inputs. All this information is available to law enforcement at the drop of a simple search warrant, AND has been certified infallible by the Supreme Court.

    Put her in the car? With forensic science the way it is today I'm sure they can. That hard a hit did the airbags blow? if so there's probably blood on them, hair fibers, skin cells, etc. What about her clothes? If the airbags blew there's going to be powder on her clothes from it. Did the old lady hit the windshield? If so some blood splatter and / or glass fragments may have ended up going through the windshield and onto the ladies clothes. Blood splatter analysis is some amazing s*** from what I've read/ saw. Is the seat belt locked back? If so, she was wearing it then she probably has some type of mark from the impact that will coincide with that seat belt on her body. is it a pretty new model car? If so chances are very good that the airbag module recorded the weight of the person in the driver's seat.

    I once saw a story where a guy's blue jeans left a mark on the inside drivers door panel during a collision and they were able to compare that mark to the dye in his blue jeans and prove it one and the same by forensic science and convict his ass ;)

    I have a friend who is a lab tech who used to do that kind of stuff for the State Crime Lab. the trace evidence guys like him would have a field day with a deal like that processing that car, which I guarantee you the cops impounded for evidence.
     
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  20. OpenRoad

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    da.
    you are correct, a hit and run with injury in California is a felony. So yeah, the DUI part does not need to be proven. I can give some gory details.. be warned. Over the scanner the dispatcher said "possible amputation" and more than that, when first responders arrived, it took them a few minutes to find her. She was in someone's backyard. Corner was called right after they located her. PSL is 35 in this particular spot, so I'm guessing she was doing 60. The license plate on her car was dislodged which was why they quickly located her - she lived about a mile away.
     
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