Creative Stinger laser installs

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  1. Dragons

    Dragons Breathing fire Intermediate User

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    I'm interested in seeing people's creative Stinger installs, particularly with fibres, I have seen a couple of interesting ones done by install shops, I am more interested in seeing what people have devised for themselves on their own cars, my own installation is rather unimaginative I really need to do better with it to make it a little stealthier.

    Anyone have any links or pics they are willing to post?

    I have seen the pictures on StingerUSA, they are great but not what I am looking for here.
     
  2. ohmygodoui

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    IMG_4550.JPG IMG_4537.JPG The 1st picture showed the way they installed my stinger on my mercedes cla250 sport at the rear
    they fore a whole in the bumper and glued the receiver under the bumper, you can see clearly the fiberoptic.
    This was not an optimal way , and i am surely not going to do this on my CLA45 AMG.
    The team in BREDA-SHOP in holland said , it is of not much use to put stinger at the back , especially if it is way down the licence plate .

    So i have 3 at the front and i will not install the rear, maybe i can use it at the side ?
    But the cost of my installation was 4000 euro : front and rear , performed in Heidelberg
    reinstalling the front : will cost 400 euro at Breda Holland
    2nd and 3rd picture shows : Screen installed in the middle console of the sport 250 in front of the ash-tray, but this will be impossible in the AMG CLA45 no room because of the shiftGear.
    You can see clearly an error on the pictures in full size , de laser deactivated and device error , because off an bad contact , a connector came loose and even put off guard my rear sensors. I was made aware of this while returning home and stopping for a snack, on the parking lot the rear sensors did not react and this alarmed me, piece by piece the stinger began to misbehave and my parking sensors too.
    Had to return ! again 1000 km, to straighten the connector problem ( i am not an expert and the germans took advantage of this ).
    You see the 2 red dots on the front display above the camera, with nothing in the vicinity yet , this was not normal.

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  3. LkC

    LkC Learning to Drive General User

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    You better go to Genevo/Antiradary at Prague. They made a clean and stealth install of my ALP.
     
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  4. ohmygodoui

    ohmygodoui Learning to Drive General User

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    If you look at the rear of a CLA AMG or CLA 250 SPORT, i think the team did a good job , you can not do it better i guess. There simply is no room .
    The front was really stealth.
     
  5. dinkydi

    dinkydi Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

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    @ OMG, i assume you dont have poliscan in holland which does surprise me, if so u will need the rears ;)
     
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    Yes of course , i will always feel more vulnerable , without the fiber at the rear, but for the moment ( only 2000 km on it ) , i can not bring me at the point of 'hurting my car' and placing that fiber there - i say not for the moment.

    Different reasons , one is the distributor in Holland told me it was not worth it, they do not often shoot from behind, he also warned me that

    in France they are not soft with people using the anti radar : so i am deactivating it in France. The police rip the stinger out of the car , and give a heavy penalty.

    In Belgium where i live there it is almost always shooting from the front and there i will rely on detecting the radar gun by reflection ( stinger is sensitive enough ) , and the roads are so dense and small even there it will work by reflection , we have such small roads , you don't have that pleasure you have, with those long and winding roads - you have space , we haven't . You spot a anonymous police car at the side of the road, early enough, and the front is protected by laser shield.

    In Italy : the only country where they side laser might be needed
    So if i want to really fly :angel::angel:, i will go to Germany , lots of stretches there where there is NO-SPEED-LIMIT.

    I use the Stinger , because i am hugely gadget-ised :pervert:, i love it because you have the spotlist, the radar detection which works in 80 percent of the situations, section alert, laser shield , safety signals, PoliceCheck, police-radar,
    Further more : it talks to me - says welcome and goodbye - .
    It has a display nicely integrated in the interior.
    Gadget-ised also means : you want to see something at work, And up to now it protected me in a lot of situations where, Waze is a burden - i avoid putting a GSM on the windshield , it is a shame , but of course in need , sometimes i do it ( it is a gadget )

    And of course it is also some sort of : showing off , i agree.

    I also have a TT4 ; anti theft installed, although there is a reduced version which comes with the AMG ( gadget which makes noice when you start the car )

    I have it coated by ceramicpro.be
    Vuil en waterafstotende nano glascoatings | Ceramic Pro

    I am buying al kinds off stuff to keep my car touch-less clean


    a foam canon , a Karcher , a Stihl leaf blower , wash mit and bucket , all kind of products , and .......
    i took a wife to clean the car :D:D:D:sotw: you wash that car !


    Anyway i am getting my Stinger installed in my AMG next Tuesday , and i will , again, ask about the rear-end. i must say aside of being sceptical of the use of stinger at the rear, maybe , they did not like to hurt my car either, it is not easy to find a good solution on a CLA without piercing some holes.
    And i talked to stinger HQ in dutch, i am from Flanders , we speak dutch as native language ,so no confusion there.

    But i will keep you informed.

    The AMG gives pleasure while driving, and sure is a difference with the 250 sport i had, so i am already very happy there, thanks for the remark.
    you can see the rear gives the same problems CLA45 AMG or CLA sport 250 , so i will need a good reason to do it at the backend. ( they need the drill that is for sure )

    Nice weekend
     

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    wow nice info for EU driving, as u say over here they shoot up the rear regularly the polis is a VERY big curse , also one other question little of topic here in Australia and USA , the service and support we get from Stinger is virtually non existent is that the same for u guy,s that live closer
     
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    @dinkydi
    Yes stinger is a dutch product
    And i will have it installed in Breda ,Holland next week.

    I originally had it installed in Heidelberg but the distance and the language bridge was a serious threshold .you can not discuss the possibilities.

    So now I am going to Holland
    And stinger support team is very kind and helpful and give all the info on whatever question you might have.

    I spent a long chat with support .

    I said I spent so much money 4000 €, on your product can you answer some questions please

    Sure ...

    Was a waterfall of information .

    So if will tell about the re-installation of my stinger next week .

    In Germany it would have costed me 900 € in Holland 400 !
    Heidelberg was 1000 km , Breda 100 km .


    Talk to u soon

    Do you have stinger too ?
     
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    yes i was the one of the first of our Australian members running it for a lot years before they introduced Stinger into the USA, back in the early days Singer was very good still is a very good product but here in AU we now have a lot of very low power k and there tech engineers have found no answers for us over past two years or so and they have little contact with there dealers both here in Au and USA, so the Stinger flavor has gone sour i only used the RD side
     
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    u'r right, even here , ever so often i deactivated the K band in the past (not anymore), I definitely deactivate x-band, maybe i am not expert in using stinger yet.
    I modify my speed sense depending on the environment i am driving , i set speed sense to 50/70 so i hear the stinger burbling when a false k-band alarm is received because we have a lot of automatic doors armed with sensors annoying us while driving by. So this might be something to consider , a low speeds sense at/above your standard sailing speed ( the speed giving tickets if your stinger-les ) at least the speedlimit.
    On the highway - i don't go there too often - i put it on 130 - i say sometimes; because i am lazy :11tea:- , those 2 are the speed limits predominantly used in Belgium. :wtf: you can not modify that all the time.
    And i can live with a little speed ticket ( even though i did not get one ever since i let it install in my 250 end of 2016 )

    Sometimes on the highway , we get spotlist alarm on 70 or even 50 , it is the highway crossing above a radarspot, so you know this is not a relevant alarm - you don't put it on the false list.

    In a way the stinger too is a 'community' tool , i guess the spot-lists are updated by the users who upload there stinger data, and so the spotlist's are updated.

    I see : back in the early days : i am a novice compared to you but stinger helps, u have to understand how speed works, and have reasonable expectations, and hope the police is lazy too ( see story of my wife beneath )

    imagine my wife drives my car too, and she was bumping into a speed trap and alerted (50km/h limit) just 40 meters in front of the police-car at 90 km/h, which is 25 m's, so in 7 seconds ( time of my laser shield up ) she travels 175 meters , so the police could not measure the speed and she did not get a ticket , and on small roads they don't use motorbikes, it is just a guy sleeping behind the steering wheel.
    She was unable to lower her speed because they are always in a bend , and so she was shot at 40 meters, no ticket there :p , in fact the harder you drive the lesser tickets :dance: you get, be as quick as possible is the message - on the small roads at least this should work, and even in a bend -
    I talked about this with the stinger support , and I was right, although laser shield up for 7 seconds is too much they said.

    imagine at 180 km/u at a distance of a 1 km stinger detects a trap , shield up gives 7 * 50 is 350 meters, so you have 350 to lower to reasonable speed on 650 meters - even there it will be hard for the dear law enforcers to get a good grip on your car - , in the event of a superman behind the canon , you are at allowable speed, let them measure ! :smugissar:

    On the highway you must put your speed sense at a higher value
    - laser shield up most be postponed as long as possible so i take 130 maybe i will take higher , i am a novice -
    because you want to be able to lower your speed and give them the opportunity to get a measure,
    7secs shield up is to much and adopting the same strategy on the highway might be dangerous if they work with motor cycles up ahead.

    So stinger advised me to reset shield up to 4 seconds , which is the factory setting.

    We must always remember shield up does not trigger beneath the speed sense limit , so there is the trade off , is your sailing speed at/above the speed limit and you have speed sense put higher, you must sometimes accept tickets of reasonable price (i don't see why and how) and have no noise in the car , if you set it lower you will have a lot of noise and you will be protected .:confused::bang::barf:is this correct ?! you tell me , my english definitely sucks , i had to reread this trice .
    Always the distance defined by shield up time, speedsense and your speed. :confused::confused:


    :words::words::words::words::words::words::words::words::words::words::words::words::zombie3::zombie3:

    i must be a in love with my stinger and my car :zombie3::zombie3:

    Have a nice day

    Please if you feel i am wrong tel me or if you can give me tips about using the stinger u'r most welcome , because a manual for using the stinger reasonably , does not exist.

    and i will keep in touch
    :omg::omg::omg::omg: says bye
     
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    yep thats where the k gets flooded and goes off all the time also the( bsm) blind spot monitoring on car mirrors also adds to the stinger noise warning and this aint been fixed over here for over two years as u can see in a way stinger has left us in the dark with there support we have all done what they asked and sent logs in still the silence is deafening any way enjoy,
     
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    Doesn't false listing help the bsm ? Is the frequency not depending on the car make

    Considering the speed sense, you can take a certain amount of risk at most of the places - if you drive hard enough over the speedsense threshold -, and laser shield is supposed to help - , i do not see or understand the problem.

    for me you are always safe
     
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    if they take a lot from the back, cover your back , you have to be completely covered , i am not for the moment
     
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    I asked my wife just now, the stinger alerted, she saw the car up ahead and without using the breaks she passed the car and then she braked , lol, women !
    No ticket though
     
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    a lot of the bsm are very close to low power freq, any way getting way off topic good to chat
     
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    ok i said what i had to say , that is my installation
     
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    To day my stinger was installed in the ash tray of my CLA45 AMG.
    it is not optimal , because , you don't have space to put it else where.

    it was done by the BredaAutoShop in the Netherlands, official dealer of Stinger at Breda.

    I am unable to use the false-list button or the add to spotlist button at the bottom of the screen, but i can live with it , because : i don't use them anyway
    Maybe the technician was unable to tilt/elevate the screen enough , and stil be able the lid to close with the screen in place ( if you can live with removing the screen when closing the lid this might be possible )


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    I have been experimenting with the speed sens list in the configuration and have define 55, 75 , 95 , 135 and 150 as thresholds

    The cable with the stinger-usb is guided to the glove-compartment.

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    This is the end of my input , thanks and goodbye
     

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    Today my installation of the stinger display was slightly changed as it was difficult for me to touch the whole screen, the technician in fact told me that it is not a touch screen but a PUSH screen ( it reacts on your nails too )
    It is much better but to close the ash tray I need to remove the display.
    No problem I will jot my gloves over it.
     

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    I posted some questions regarding speedsense to stinger and here is there reply :
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    Dear mr. De Decker,

    In the beginning the Speedsense will always be a little bit hard to understand.
    But I will try to explain as clearly as possible.
    I will use your example of Speedsense settings to explain; 30, 55, 75, 90, 130 km/h.

    When Autoswitch is on, the Speedsense will always start with the lowest preset speed when you start driving.
    In your case 30km/h.

    If, for example, you are driving on a road with a speedlimit of 90km/h, you can press the top center of the screen to change the current Speedsense to 90km/h.
    Below that speed no audio alarms will be given. The screen will say 'Muted by Speedsense' and give a yellow alert bar.
    And above that speed you will get audio alarms with a red alert bar.

    Autoswitch will make sure that you don't forget to lower the Speedsense when slowing down.
    I will give you the same example when driving on a 90km/h road and the Speedsense set to 90km/h.
    When you slow down below the Speedsense setting one step below 90km/h, so lower than 75km/h, it will automatically lower the Speedsense setting one step.
    In your case that would be 75km/h.
    And slowing down below 55km/h, the Speedsense will automatically lower again to 55km/h.
    This will continue untill you slow down below 30km/h and the Speedsense is lowered to 30km/h.

    So, the lowest Speedsense setting should be a speed below which you always want the VIP to by silent.
    Normally 30km/h is a good setting.
    Some people increase the lowest setting to 50km/h, but them you won't get an alert when driving in zones with lower speed limits.

    When Autoswitch is switched off, it will not change the active Speedsense setting automatically, which may result in forgetting this.
    So, it is best to keep Autoswitch on.

    Falselist is not connected to the Speedsense and driving speed.
    So you don't have to do anything to get the Falselist to track all the radar signals.
    You will see 'Muted by Speedsense' when driving below the Speedsense speed.
    When driving faster than the Speedsense speed you will see 'Muted by Falselist' if the signal is marked as a false alarm.
    This does not have any effect on the VIP automatically updating the Falselist.

    In the bottom of the SpeedSense menu there is also a function called 'Simulate GPS'.
    By default this function is switched on.
    This function mutes alarms when there is no GPS signal within 2 minutes after starting the car.
    For instance, in a parking garage it will mute any alarms.
    If after 2 minutes there is still no GPS, it will start giving audio alerts to radar signals.
    If the GPS is aqcuired within 2 minutes, the VIP will operate as usual.

    I hope this answers your questions.
    If you have any more questions, please let us know.

    Best regards,
    Wouter van Dijk


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    message: I have 2 questions in fact : 1. I would like to know what it means to have : autoswitch on in the speed sense menu what does it do exactly. i have defined 5 levels of speed-sense speeds 30 55 75 90 130 km/h what happens , because i get : muted by speed sense or muted by false list messages. How is this behaviour programmed, 2. is the update (yes/or no) of the false list governed by my driving speed and these limits . For example if i hear : muted by speed sense, the false list is not updated ( is this correct ? ) which would mean that in the beginning i should put my speed sense as high as possible and autoswitch of ? my components are .... I
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