Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by tempnexus, Nov 11, 2017.
Wow, $400 for electric in heat of summer. There is where you loose in the South.
No, i lose because of 5,000 sq ft and 8 kids running in and out....
while wife and i were gone to DC and kids were with grandma, the thermostat was left on 68 with 80-85 temps and it was less than 2 bucks a day...
About $1500.00 per year to heat an 1820's era home. I use a pellet stove with oil heat which I maintain myself. I have an efficient Riello burner in a basic Peerless boiler running an IntelliCon HW+ Heat manager http://www.intellidyne.green/index.php/products/heating/hw which save an additional 20%. Truthfully, oil heat gets a bad rap due to what it used to be. As Oldcelt said, you buy early and accomodate 2-275 Gallon tanks. I pay $55.00 a month in electric budget plan from average use. For us it's worth a few month of cold not to have to worry about hurricanes, tornadoes, floods etc. We have the house on the rock which makes it hard to want to leave to the unknown.
Decided to put my leased solar panels to work during the winter for the first time last year. I have an electric fire place heater for the living room and kitchen and another space heater for the three bedrooms of my rancher. My natural gas bill was $40 a month. My panel lease is $136. I pay $4 a month to the electric company to stay connected. I had one month last winter where the electric bill was $30 due to it being overcast almost the entire month. I plan on doing the same this winter.
I’m in Florida right now and I wasn’t expecting the deep freeze over NJ right now. I’ve been running the gas heat via my phone while a family member house sits our pets for us.
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Yeah I should have, but it was basically a scramble to get a house since most places would not accept my dog, thus it went from 20 locations down to 3 and of those 3 this was the best choice.
Back in the day (90's) when I lived in NorthEast, oil heat wasn't that bad and some folks actually preferred it to gas (if I can recall correctly) so I honestly didn't think much of it...especially that NOVA isn't as cold as upper North East.
Live and learn...at least I don't own the house and have to live with the choice.
On the side note the electric was cheaper this summer (only $150 / month) as opposed to paying ($520/month in Phoenix and $80/ month for my ABQ place).
Nowadays, everyone is coverting from oil heat to natural gas. I guess back in the days oil eas so cheap and it's not so much now.
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We use natural gas to heat with and run our electric off solar panels. Last July the power company paid me, the year before it was over $300 for the month of July.
I had propane heat and a couple years ago, I replaced my AC with a heat pump (3.5 ton) and made the propane the backup. Did the work myself so between parts and tools, it came out to just over 2 grand. Prior to this, I was spending $400-$500 a month to fill the propane tank.. 6 fillups a year. Last winter, my electric went from $175 to $250 and I only needed to have my tank filled 3 times. Yup, the heat pump is almost already paid off...
Yeah I am running a hybrid heatpump and oil but the heatpump won't work if it's below 47 which has been for the most of the time at night.
You need to reprogram that thing QUICK! You're wasting $$ by having the heatpump cut out at 47F. I have my thermostat set to switch over @ 35F and I'm thinking about reducing the switch over temp to 30F. Unless your heat pump is really old, your heat pump should be efficient down to the teens. What you have to look for is the electric rates... The lower the rate compared to oil, the lower you can set your switch over temp. But there is a point where eletric heat is cheaper than a hp.. but you gotta get into some cold temps for that.
I have oil 30 years and have never run out. You'd have to be pretty lax to mess that up.
I generally hate oil too, because it's such a dirty fuel. But propane (delivered) would cost more and most likely have to be delivered more often.
Electric would be through the roof. The only heat source, worse than oil, is a heat pump.
My Electric Bill is negative or $0.00 every month with Solar Then I receive a check in the mail a few times a year to pay for the oil. Buy I did "PrePay" for it effectively for the next 20 years. But it still feels good.
I'm curious in what way a heat pump is worse than oil? I just went from an oil furnace to a heat pump and at least as far as cost the heat pump is cheaper. It is clean heat too so I like it better.
We've used forced air oil furnace for over 40 years. It's the best around here and my favorite. 80 cents per liter. We have a 900L tank. And 900L usually gets us through the winter of Temps in the minus 20's. We also have a heat pump and pellet stove. So I have good options. Heat pump uses very little electricity and provides us with summer AC. Our oil furnace is high efficiency. And the pellet stove pushes out a lot of heat when needed on those extra cold days and nights. We have a huge hot water heater as well. Oil fired. We have never run out of oil. Or. Hot water. In 40 years. Our heat pump works down to minus 25. When we get below minus 20. We usually switch to the pellet stove for our backup source. Oil is always our primary.
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Way more expensive than oil. It can be near zero for weeks around here. My sister has one and they are always freezing their asses off trying to keep it low and paying a fortune for heating. Their system was just replaced too.
They make more sense further south where you need more AC than BTU. Up north It’s cheaper to go oil when you need tons of btu’s. And not so much AC in summer.
Those dumb heat pumps have heaters in them too which use electricity just to keep them from getting damaged when it gets real cold out.
Thanks for your response. Having a heat pump where we have mild winters is very cheap and definitely less expensive than the oil furnaces I've had both of which were not the high efficiency type. In Oregon it doesn't get below freezing very much and my heat pump works down to about 30 degrees before the electric heater comes on. My electric bill is around 70 dollars a month in the winter. Last winter my fan motor went out and I had no way of knowing. When I got my electric bill that month it was 214.00 or triple what the heat pump was costing so yes electric heat is very expensive. I think a heat pump is better than a furnace in this climate however so I guess the climate is important in the equation too.
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