Time for a new RD? Last one was Bel STI

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  1. trandg

    trandg Learning to Drive General User

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    So I have this Bel STI magnesium that I purchased around 2007. It's worked relatively well for me over the years and has saved me from a couple of hairy incidents mostly with Ka band. It definitely gives false readings in the city (Toronto), usually doors at gas stations/supernarkets etc. I've noticed it seems to give more false positives as of the past two years vs back when I bought it originally. Not sure why it's doing that now, but its making me not use the thing.

    1. This will be for an Audi S5. Windshield mount is ideal, but open to different options
    2. Budget $500-1500
    3. Where: Toronto - drive mostly in the city, but a lot of rural trips (mostly radar on rural zones, sometimes LIDAR)
    4. I drive spiritedly - I push hard, but also can be chill
    5. Daily driving mostly in the city on short trips 10-45kms. Weekends 350kms
    6. Used my Bel STI since 07
    7. Mostly flat driving in the city, but windy roads on weekends
    8. Redlight cams, no speedcams in my area - not an issue
    9. I use Android and willing to pair with my phone/detector

    I'm debating if I should look into something that works better for the city, see if I should upgrade this one, or just not bother altogether. Car is a lease so would rather minimal mods if possible.

    Any suggestions on upgrades or different models? Anything out there now that works best in the city but also gives good laser detection? Laser on this guy is terrible, often when it's too late.

    Thanks!
     
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  2. thebravo

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    Welcome to the forums. Over the last few years a lot more vehicles on the road have BSM (blind spot monitoring) and FCW (forward collision warning) some of those systems operate in the K band radar frequency range which causes a lot of the falses. Some of the newer detectors out there have good filtering which really cuts down on the falses.

    If you are looking to stay with a windshield mounted detector the best bet is the Uniden R3 it's got best range in the industry at the moment and has really good filtering. It also has GPS so you can set it to mute alerts below a certain speed (great for slow city driving) and you can also lockout known false sources you pass every day so they won't continue to bother you day after day. The R3 would be my pick as long as you aren't facing MRCD or low powered photoradar as they use in certain parts of CA, if you do have low powered photo radar or MRCD stuff ibn places you drive then look at the Radenso Pro M as it can also support those threats and has really good range as well.

    Since you do see some laser up there, I will warn you windshield detectors won't save you from laser. The detector ( if it alerts) will only alert when you are hit, by the time you react the officer already has your speed. If Waze is used up there that can help with laser as long as other users ahead of you report the trap. If you are concerned with laser you could look into an ALP setup, it will require some installation, but can be done without causing damage that your leasing agency would be bothered by. ALP will provide laser protection (not just detection) and can also incorporate ALP's Net radar so you could get both a radar and laser package in one.

    Good luck!
     
  3. trandg

    trandg Learning to Drive General User

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    Thank you for such an amazing response. Really helpful to figure out what I need to do. Sounds like I need to upgrade to the R3 and even think about getting an ALP setup to be safe. Any issue with installing DIY? I wouldn't mind giving it a shot, but not sure if there are any challenges with proper calibration and coverage etc.

    Think it's worth selling my old STI? It still works great and has all the original stuff - not sure if people would buy it though.
     
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    PointerCone M3 Kng Advanced User Premium Member

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    I have an 06 with the original metal box it came in. Upgraded two years ago to new firmware. It's still a great unit . Segged, theres few better. It falses less than my Redline too.
     
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    The STI was and still is a good detector, and if you weren't being bothered by the falses it would still be a solid choice. They are still a great unit, so if you do decide to consider an purchasing something new I bet you could probably sell it. ALP is definitely worth looking into if you see some lidar, it is expensive, but if you encounter lidar while driving above the speed limit that can be pricey too. You can definitely do an ALP self install if you are handy, there are a ton of folks here that are experts in it and can give you recommendations on sensor placement and tips for alignment. The only way to know for sure if the alignment is good is to get it tested by someone with a Lidar gun they can ensure that everything is covered. Do some looking around the ALP section and over in here (https://www.rdforum.org/index.php?forums/39/) for some recommendations on placement, do a little searching I bet someone here has installed ALP on the S5 or a similar Audi.

    In the mean time have you tried running your STI in City mode? If you don't encounter real X band radar there you could also turn that band off and that may help quiet it down a little.
     
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    SovietO 49 Over General User

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    Hi Bravo, just wanted to let you know he is from Toronto (Ontario) where RD's are banned. He needs to use a Spectre proof device. I drive in Toronto and throughout Ontario too with the STI Magnum (segged). I'm also keeping an eye open for something new seeing they released a new Redline -- the STI is quite chatty in the city so something with better filtering would be welcome :D.

    Edit: My bad - didn't know that the R3 was undetectable. I will look into it :)
     
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    The R3 is essentially is immune to RDD's. It was tested against the spectre elite and at max sensitivity only detected it at 5-6 feet head on. In the real worked that is stealth enough for use even in banned area's. Even if you were parked nose to nose with a police cruiser you would probably not set it off. Driving by it was completely stealthy.




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