Max360 vs. Uniden R3

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So now that the Max360 has the new fw update that allows it to filter out Acuras and GM's (not completely, but almost), that's a huge step forward and has me thinking about it compared to the R3 in terms of which RD is better. I wanna do a quick pros/cons list with each detector and bounce some ideas off of you guys. Here's my thoughts. I put a * by the ones that I feel are either the key differences or most important when running the detectors day to day.

Max360's advantages:
-Arrows*
-Autolockouts*
-Bluetooth*
-Better BSM filtering*
-Can display speed limit on screen*
-Better laser sensitivity
-RLC alerts are directional
-RLC/speedcams are updated more frequently
-Updater works for Macs too, not just Windows*
-Update process is much simpler
-Has had more time to mature
-Native hardwire cable available
-Multiple signal counter is more stable
-Can light up different colors (arrows) for different bands
-Autodimming display*
-Automatic speed-based sensitivity adjustments*

R3 advantages:
-Superior range*
-K/Ka segmentation, but primarily for alerting rather than performance
-Lower price*
-Uniden is updating the detector more rapidly*
-Physically smaller
-RDD immune*
-K POP detection
-Can display compass on screen
-Band priority or signal strength priority
-More display colors
-More selectable tones
-Advanced mode to selectively dial back sensitivity per band
-Friendly towards enthusiast market* (thanks @Driver66)

As I'm sitting here looking at them, the Max360 has good range too and so long as you don't need an RDD immune detector and you're willing to drop the extra cash for the Max360 (the price has been sitting at $550 lately so it's only $150 more than the R3), it offers a lot of extra features above and beyond the R3...

What are your thoughts on the two detectors?
 
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How about install did you factor that into the price? Good review

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How about install did you factor that into the price? Good review
Install? Wouldn't it be the same for both detectors?
 

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Yup I thought this was CI carry on.

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It's been said many times since the update was released, but I think it comes down to how the new filtering affects range. If they just gave K band a 15dBm haircut and added minimal filtering I don't think it changes the equation that much. If they did manage to take a giant step forward in BSM filtering without impacting range then it's much more interesting.

The idea of using notch filters to quiet down the worst BSM offenders around 24.200 has been mentioned recently. I wonder if that is what's going on here?

I've recently started encountering a local LEO running a Stalker Patrol (low power K band) running at 24.201, so a notch filter could be disastrous in these cases. Would be very interesting to test with a K band gun running at 24.150 vs one running high around 24.200 and see if we can learn anymore about the various filtering approaches each manufacturer has used.
 

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to me, the extra range, and if the filtering is even close to the r1 that I have, i would pick the r3.
 

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Test results. Waiting for test results!
 

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That's a tough one. The arrows + autolockouts + better BSM filtering are great features.

Noisy falsing detectors = inattention, aka a ticket.

That being said, I can live without arrows and everything else. The 360 is $900+ CAD. Just can't do it.


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Install? Wouldn't it be the same for both detectors?
The Max360 is so heavy that several of my friends have had to buy a blend mount to make it stable. That was an extra $100 they didn't expect to spend. If the R3 is lighter then maybe it can use a cheaper $35 mirror mount.
 

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Gotta reserve any and all comments on/for/against the 360 until test results. The R3 is well documented so nothing to add to it. Beast on range/Good filtering.....good customer support.....lets see what Escort has done.
 

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Since the update, my R3's been quiet. Could be that there aren't a lot of high end cars in Cleveland (Oh) but I'm in bumper to bumper traffic on the way to and from office when I'm in town. I'll go with the range and lock out a couple of shopping centers manually.


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Why pick one.....get both :) That was my solution! All kidding aside I really like both units and it is a very hard decision to make if really forced to pick one. I can say If I never ran arrows before and was upgrading from a non-arrow unit I would jump to the R3, as I would not know what I was missing. However, having had the arrows and enjoying the extra info (and horn) it does make a significant difference. Each of these units will be better in one aspect than another so it really comes down to personal preference and what you really need/want.
 

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Yup I thought this was CI carry on.

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The Max 360 that @Vortex is referrng to is a WS mount as is the R3, so there's NO install costs unless you can't put a suction cup on a WS or on a direct mount??
 

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It's been said many times since the update was released, but I think it comes down to how the new filtering affects range. If they just gave K band a 15dBm haircut and added minimal filtering I don't think it changes the equation that much. If they did manage to take a giant step forward in BSM filtering without impacting range then it's much more interesting.

The idea of using notch filters to quiet down the worst BSM offenders around 24.200 has been mentioned recently. I wonder if that is what's going on here?

I've recently started encountering a local LEO running a Stalker Patrol (low power K band) running at 24.201, so a notch filter could be disastrous in these cases. Would be very interesting to test with a K band gun running at 24.150 vs one running high around 24.200 and see if we can learn anymore about the various filtering approaches each manufacturer has used.
Good points @InsipidMonkey . Notch filters could be dangerous, just as segmenting K band on an EX with 1 and 2 ON and 3 and 4 OFF is. I asked ER about this a few years ago when IVT first arrived and was "told" (you know how that goes) that its a proprietary technology that is NOT a notch filter and uses algorithms.
 

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The Max 360 that @Vortex is referrng to is a WS mount as is the R3, so there's NO install costs unless you can't put a suction cup on a WS or on a direct mount??
I thought he was talking about the CI homie lol settle down.

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The Max360 is so heavy that several of my friends have had to buy a blend mount to make it stable. That was an extra $100 they didn't expect to spend. If the R3 is lighter then maybe it can use a cheaper $35 mirror mount.
There were issues with early build Max 360s that ER too care of. My early M360 was separating at the front of the cases where it neets the tongue for the cup mount and they did take care of it immediately. My other M360, a few months older has the same issue, BUT I never sent it in for that issue, so it bounces a LOT more than the one that was repaired. With the OEM factory suction cup mount, I've had little issue with the repaired Max360 bouncing (albeit it is heavy). The tongue goes into a metal mount inside the plastic cases, so the modified one or whatever they call it is quite sturdy. Max Mount 1.jpg Max mount 2.jpg
 

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For where I spend 95% of my time, we don't have any RLC, and very few door openers etc. And it's also a very tough environment for a RD, so sensitivity is king around here. R3 for me.
 

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For where I spend 95% of my time, we don't have any RLC, and very few door openers etc. And it's also a very tough environment for a RD, so sensitivity is king around here. R3 for me.
Yeah, I agree, However, none of the ER units have ever been slouches on K band. Not quite as good as a V1, BUT there are no dogs either. If we're talking about ultimate performance, then my nod goes to the R3 for sure, particularly on Ka band. Because many infrequently experience K band, then its a toss up because the Max 360, as "decent" is it is on Ka, is way behind the R3 on Ka as well. I'm not so sure on K band v. the R3 though. If you're into the dual horn/arrow thing and want LIVE and Lockouts, then the Max360 is the clear choice. I guess its more about what works for your area.
 

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Yeah, I agree, However, none of the ER units have ever been slouches on K band. Not quite as good as a V1, BUT there are no dogs either. If we're talking about ultimate performance, then my nod goes to the R3 for sure, particularly on Ka band. Because many infrequently experience K band, then its a toss up because the Max 360, as "decent" is it is on Ka, is way behind the R3 on Ka as well. I'm not so sure on K band v. the R3 though. If you're into the dual horn/arrow thing and want LIVE and Lockouts, then the Max360 is the clear choice. I guess its more about what works for your area.
Agreed. 35.5 Ka is most common around here, and since the Redline O is no longer available, I went with the new kid on the block for killer Ka sensitivity. My first nice RD was a passport 7500s, so I did look at offerings from Escort, Valentine, and Radenso before making my decision. However, I did so knowing full well there were features I was giving up by choosing the R3. I always do a lot of research on my purchases, (usually) saves heartache in the long run. A friend steered me towards both the R series, and this site.