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Not sure if I'd be interested. It'd have to be on the cheaper end if I were to buy it. But this all depends on how my new dual TMG setup performs once I test it. I'll let you know.
I understand. I’m following the TMG work as well. I’m not in a hurry to sell the blinder since it’s just sitting in the garage. I really don’t want to go through all the work to install it only to rip it back out. I may do it if I get board and want to perform a practice install. I’ll have to be realllllly board
 

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I just need a darn computer for the two heads I removed off of my old car. I left the computer installed behind the stereo system since the car was an 01 Corolla and totaled. Might as well use them.
Here's my opinion on this:

IF you:
1. Already have the Blinders installed, AND
2. You are sure Dragoneye is NOT used in your state

Then keep using the Blinders. However if either of the first two conditions is not true, don't waste your time installing them.

I followed the same principle with my STiR+ head. AL was still selling those to people in 2014 for integration with ALP (they soon realized that they screwed up, pulled them from inventory, and worked on developing the NetRadar). That thing was absolutely intolerable, and falsed every 10-20 minutes to K band, if not more. But I put up with it because CHP uses only 34.7 and so I simply disabled K band, which got rid of the false alarms.

Then my car got totaled. Now a fully installed, crappy system with drawbacks that happen to not apply to your use case is one thing, but putting money and effort into installing it on a new car is another. I replaced the damaged ALP sensors and put the ALPs on my new car, but got the Max Ci 360 Platform for RADAR. So now I am not blind to K band anymore.
 

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Here's my opinion on this:

IF you:
1. Already have the Blinders installed, AND
2. You are sure Dragoneye is NOT used in your state

Then keep using the Blinders. However if either of the first two conditions is not true, don't waste your time installing them.

I followed the same principle with my STiR+ head. AL was still selling those to people in 2014 for integration with ALP (they soon realized that they screwed up, pulled them from inventory, and worked on developing the NetRadar). That thing was absolutely intolerable, and falsed every 10-20 minutes to K band, if not more. But I put up with it because CHP uses only 34.7 and so I simply disabled K band, which got rid of the false alarms.

Then my car got totaled. Now a fully installed, crappy system with drawbacks that happen to not apply to your use case is one thing, but putting money and effort into installing it on a new car is another. I replaced the damaged ALP sensors and put the ALPs on my new car, but got the Max Ci 360 Platform for RADAR. So now I am not blind to K band anymore.
I haven't installed the Blinder M27 kit on my new car. I ripped only the two heads off that old car and for various reasons, didn't pull the CPU out so now I have two Blinder "transponders" and nothing to do with them. I gotta figure out if I should just throw them out, try to sell em on eBay, or find someone with a CPU.
 

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I haven't installed the Blinder M27 kit on my new car. I ripped only the two heads off that old car and for various reasons, didn't pull the CPU out so now I have two Blinder "transponders" and nothing to do with them. I gotta figure out if I should just throw them out, try to sell em on eBay, or find someone with a CPU.
I'd say try to sell, but if no one bites, just toss them. They're obsolete.
 

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I had a set , now the lay in a land fill. I didn't want to sell them to someone that didn't know they are worthless and take there money. I like to sleep at night.
 

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BLINDER is now Escort, Laser interceptor is now Stinger. I hope the mods will delete the blinder and laser interceptor sections soon. I'd hate for someone to get a ticket.Using these systems. And just because these units may detect some guns, does not mean its jamming them.
 

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I had a set , now the lay in a land fill. I didn't want to sell them to someone that didn't know they are worthless and take there money. I like to sleep at night.
I'm seeing people attempt that! Someone who hasn't done their homework is in for a decent lesson in life!
 

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BLINDER is now Escort, Laser interceptor is now Stinger.
Can you explain? Blinder now builds Escort laser jammers, but I had no clue that LI builds laser jammers for Stinger. Do you have more information to share?
 

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Can you explain? Blinder now builds Escort laser jammers, but I had no clue that LI builds laser jammers for Stinger. Do you have more information to share?
Please don't take what you read on forums as always true.
 

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Yes there is some misinformation here. I don't believe LI builds for stinger (the guy that used to run LI moved over to being a stinger rep once LI stopped died off as a company in the US, I believe he is now not with stinger any more) And I don't believe the blinder building for escort thing is true either, there have been rumors but I don't believe they were ever substantiated... in fact I think most were debunked.
 

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I see some people talking about stuff they have no idea about.

blinder will work for legacy guns, not on the DE or some of the newer VPR guns. Blinder and Escort maker is the same, but they arent the same company. LI and Stinger also.

If you threw your blinders in the landfill that's on you, unless you had the DE in your area, or they were broke, they work fine.

might want to tell this to some people that dont know better.
 

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Yes there is some misinformation here. I don't believe LI builds for stinger (the guy that used to run LI moved over to being a stinger rep once LI stopped died off as a company in the US, I believe he is now not with stinger any more) And I don't believe the blinder building for escort thing is true either, there have been rumors but I don't believe they were ever substantiated... in fact I think most were debunked.
I do think that Blinder in Denmark builds the hardware for Escort. After the ZR4, Escort went to LI to repackage the LI's as LSP's, especially since the LI's were the best jammers at the time. That didn't work out long term and there was never a single update released for those jammers. Blinder was going to release a new jammer in early 2017, but Leon / BlinderDude passed away and Escort wanted a new jammer as well so they took the product and packaged it up under the Escort name. That's what the ShifterMax / ZR5 / ZW5 is.

As for LI / Stinger, you're right. They are in no way the same company. Cliff, the former US distributor for Stinger, stopped selling LI around the time when the DE was on the rise and ALP was quickly taking over as the best jammer. He then became the US distributor for Stinger, but Stinger always remained its own company as far as manufacturing and R&D. LI never made anything for Stinger, or vice versa. Eventually the Cliff / Stinger distribution relationship came to an end and now Stinger is setting up distribution with a new North American distributor, MSC.

blinder will work for legacy guns, not on the DE or some of the newer VPR guns. Blinder and Escort maker is the same, but they arent the same company. LI and Stinger also.

If you threw your blinders in the landfill that's on you, unless you had the DE in your area, or they were broke, they work fine.
Yeah the Blinder HP-905's will still work against many guns out there. PL3's, TruSpeeds, Laser Atlanta, etc. They should work against the TSS as well, but I'm not sure about some of the newer TSS's that have had minor pulse pattern changes. Older Blinder variants won't do as well.

As for the DE and likely the newer XLR / RLR, you're out of luck with those.
 
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I do think that Blinder in Denmark builds the hardware for Escort. After the ZR4, Escort went to LI to repackage the LI's as LSP's, especially since the LI's were the best jammers at the time. That didn't work out long term and there was never a single update released for those jammers. Blinder was going to release a new jammer in early 2017, but Leon / BlinderDude passed away and Escort wanted a new jammer as well so they took the product and packaged it up under the Escort name. That's what the ShifterMax / ZR5 / ZW5 is.

As for LI / Stinger, you're right. They are in no way the same company. Cliff, the former US distributor for Stinger, stopped selling LI around the time when the DE was on the rise and ALP was quickly taking over as the best jammer. He then became the US distributor for Stinger, but Stinger always remained its own company as far as manufacturing and R&D. LI never made anything for Stinger, or vice versa. Eventually the Cliff / Stinger distribution relationship came to an end and now Stinger is setting up distribution with a new North American distributor, MSC.



Yeah the Blinder HP-905's will still work against many guns out there. PL3's, TruSpeeds, Laser Atlanta, etc. They should work against the TSS as well, but I'm not sure about some of the newer TSS's that have had minor pulse pattern changes. Older Blinder variants won't do as well.

As for the DE and likely the newer XLR / RLR, you're out of luck with those.
thank you for affirming that. i forgot abou the newer TSS vpr guns.
 

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well honestly speaking-I bought the ZR5 system BEFORE I found this site due to being a loyal Escort customer. So After reading all the horror stories that a 2 head system wont protect against the dreaded DE (Headquarters just 4 exits south of me) I went all in and bought the add on pack and now have 4 heads on the front grille of my small ride. Happy to verify I am JTG on 3 diff guns Including the DE!!
So to all you Escort haters-LOL The ZR5s Do work Great-now all I need is the 4 sec switched alert ,auto kill, I think its called. Common give Escort some love-their CS department has fixed my 360c in 1 week and now the ZR5 heads have me JTG!! Maybe some of the trend for Escort service is going up now.
 

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well honestly speaking-I bought the ZR5 system BEFORE I found this site due to being a loyal Escort customer. So After reading all the horror stories that a 2 head system wont protect against the dreaded DE (Headquarters just 4 exits south of me) I went all in and bought the add on pack and now have 4 heads on the front grille of my small ride. Happy to verify I am JTG on 3 diff guns Including the DE!!
So to all you Escort haters-LOL The ZR5s Do work Great-now all I need is the 4 sec switched alert ,auto kill, I think its called. Common give Escort some love-their CS department has fixed my 360c in 1 week and now the ZR5 heads have me JTG!! Maybe some of the trend for Escort service is going up now.
wow, thank you for sharing. that's great, i will use this info. only people i hate are animal abusers, or bullies of both four legged and two legged lol
 

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My 4 headed ZR5 beasts Rock JTG tested and verified by 3 guns including the DE latest SW ver demon, on my half pint sized terror Auto!!
Thanks Keith!! This site rocks even with all the Escort haters,LOL-(Honestly-I bought my system Before I found this site-Still worked out great!!)
-- Double Post Merged: --
sorry about my double post- long story-apologies sent to all bored reading my rants.
 
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The V1 keeps on selling because there is an open source app that keeps it relevant. Companies that do not have the resources to progress their product should simply open source their firmware, at least they'll be able to keep selling the hardware or at least get the very best out of it even if it is not fully capable. There could never be a V2 but I do still see the V1 selling for quite some time!

I was one of the first ones to ask if the R3 could get MRCD (My post even made it into a R3 Youtube video). At the time it was stated that the hardware would not allow it. However subsequently we now have MRCD on the R3. Does one ever really know what Hardware is capable of? Sure memory can be finite but the scripts written can be changed/simplified allowing one to get more out of said memory.

Thankfully I have a ALP and have been very happy with updates etc but the point above still remains.
 

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The V1 keeps on selling because there is an open source app that keeps it relevant. Companies that do not have the resources to progress their product should simply open source their firmware, at least they'll be able to keep selling the hardware or at least get the very best out of it even if it is not fully capable. There could never be a V2 but I do still see the V1 selling for quite some time!

I was one of the first ones to ask if the R3 could get MRCD (My post even made it into a R3 Youtube video). At the time it was stated that the hardware would not allow it. However subsequently we now have MRCD on the R3. Does one ever really know what Hardware is capable of? Sure memory can be finite but the scripts written can be changed/simplified allowing one to get more out of said memory.

Thankfully I have a ALP and have been very happy with updates etc but the point above still remains.
Are you aware the R3 has a hardware restriction that prevents it from scanning lower than 24.050? Which means its completely unreliable in Edmonton for MRCD detection because it won't detect some of them. Not that this has anything to do with Blinder support and continuation though...
 

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Are you aware the R3 has a hardware restriction that prevents it from scanning lower than 24.050? Which means its completely unreliable in Edmonton for MRCD detection because it won't detect some of them. Not that this has anything to do with Blinder support and continuation though...
That's true. The R3 not being able to detect the R3 was based on the idea that MRCD detection generally required specific hardware. We saw this with the Redline / Redline EX, RPSE / Pro M, Net Radar / Net Radar MRCD, etc. The R3 was the first time that some semblance of MRCD detection was able to be added on an existing platform which was both surprising and impressive. That said, because it wasn't designed for it initially, there are still some limitations like the K band scanning range like you mentioned.
 

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