[Patent] High Probability of Intercept Radar Detector (part 2)

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The R7, properly trimmed out, has way more than “the second or three of extra alert” on narrow axis interstate range. Just the way it is. And, add the off axis capability over the V1, extends its lead. The extra time IS missed when counting on max range (like the V1 had over competitors years ago) for those night time I/O, with sparse traffic (in front) to help odds of I/O going off ahead of me. Same for long distance snakes traveling quickly opposite towards me running I/O. I have also seen the Uber good off axis help bigwith the curves warnings on both C/O and I/O in these settings. V1 just trails behind badly.
If it just weren't for that issue no one talks about in these "the R7 is better than the V1" posts... the laser detection.. I'd already own one... not all of us run countermeasures and still require a half decent laser detector... I know, it just tells you you got a ticket, but my V1 has saved me on more than one laser encouter.....
 

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If it just weren't for that issue no one talks about in these "the R7 is better than the V1" posts... the laser detection.. I'd already own one... not all of us run countermeasures and still require a half decent laser detector... I know, it just tells you you got a ticket, but my V1 has saved me on more than one laser encouter.....
I am not going to argue about your view relating to effectiveness of V1 laser detection. Why? Because since the first model where I upgraded my multiple V1s to add the larger lower base, I experienced “saves” that people would say are impossible. That lower base add on version had multiple sensors, and for me, with the limits of laser detection, were amazing. Since the time laser detection went back in the original case, up until I quit running my always updated/upgraded to new V1s, I experienced laser saves. Not always. But, enough that, to me was more than sporadic. I do think the built in system has never been as good as the original add-on. Could be way off base on that statement because it is based on experience. The guns have gotten harder to pick up, get that.

For me, the occasional laser save, verses other functions, +range options with top tier radar detectors placed the V1 on the shelf. I understand your view, and respect it. And I am a long term witness to validate what you say about the V1 effectiveness against laser.

I have done some basic non street functional testing with all the inventory with laser. Took my Dragon eye, baby monitor, the RD inventory, went to empty parking lot and back road of light warehouse area. Parked car near light post, and couple of cars left over the weekend in the lot. Plus a staged stationary test on the road. I was looking to see if I could get a idea of scatter pick up capability, raw “does it work at all” rating on laser sensors of the RDs. Plus at that time, had the ZW5 temp installed in that vehicle tested (G90). This simulation “does it pick up and activate CM” only. Because I was alone, not a moving CM test.

The V1 was better at picking up scatter with simulated “unsteady hand shooting” at target vehicle, shooting other cars, light pole. The Redline EX was equivalent. Then from there were the rest of the ER inventory + Pro M in next pack. However, fewer duplicated positive pick ups in same tests. The R7 performance trailed quite a bit. Actually I think it could be limited effective with certain unsteady hand shooting, and bounce off car in front pick up. The R3 was almost dead to laser. If precise aimed at lower grill, it would not go off mounted high by rear view mirror (below the tint band). Maybe my unit has some QC issues.

The above is not a real test per say. It did give indication to me how any of the inventory might react in real life. And see if any one device just did not work at all. I did not do rear testing.


back to the patent topic....Nothing new on this front.
 
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I am not going to argue about your view relating to effectiveness of V1 laser detection. Why? Because since the first model where I upgraded my multiple V1s to add the larger lower base, I experienced “saves” that people would say are impossible. That lower base add on version had multiple sensors, and for me, with the limits of laser detection, were amazing. Since the time laser detection went back in the original case, up until I quit running my always updated/upgraded to new V1s, I experienced laser saves. Not always. But, enough that, to me was more than sporadic. I do think the built in system has never been as good as the original add-on. Could be way off base on that statement because it is based on experience. The guns have gotten harder to pick up, get that.

Now: back to the patent topic....

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Now that is not exactly anything like having a single V1 hanging from the windshield now is it!

@Jennifer

Anybody, no matter what the radar detector one owns, that is depending on an RD to save them from Lidar Tickets is only playing Russian Roulette until they get an actual Lidar ticket because ALL Lidar Detectors that don't also have jamming capability are basically useless as far as giving one actual protection against Lidar.

There is NO substitute for Jammers!
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I am not going to argue about your view relating to effectiveness of V1 laser detection. Why?
I didn't 'ask' you to argue, in fact I didn't 'ask' you to do anything, don't be so defensive, it's called dialog and maybe others have more info about what people have said on this topic, that's why I mentioned it, no one said anything about 'arguing', other than you.
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Now that is not exactly anything like having a single V1 hanging from the windshield now is it!

@Jennifer

Anybody, no matter what the radar detector one owns, that is depending on an RD to save them from Lidar Tickets is only playing Russian Roulette until they get an actual Lidar ticket because ALL Lidar Detectors that don't also have jamming capability are basically useless as far as giving one actual protection against Lidar.

There is NO substitute for Jammers!
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Agree, 100%.... I'm living on borrowed time...... my last speeding ticket was in 1998 and it's not because I've been babying it, since then I've been driving a 93 300ZX Twin Turbo, and 2 M5's and a lot was commuting between Seattle and Vancouver. Between having a scanner and detection, I've managed to skate through, but only due to luck... but that will only last for so long....
 
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I didn't 'ask' you to argue, in fact I didn't 'ask' you to do anything, don't be so defensive, it's called dialog and maybe others have more info about what people have said on this topic, that's why I mentioned it, no one said anything about 'arguing', other than you.
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Agree, 100%.... I'm living on borrowed time...... my last speeding ticket was in 1998 and it's not because I've been babying it, since then I've been driving a 93 300ZX Twin Turbo, and 2 M5's and a lot was commuting between Seattle and Vancouver. Between having a scanner and detection, I've managed to skate through, but only due to luck... but that will only last for so long....
Not being defensive. I stated up front my intention was not to argue. Which is a valid statement with so many posts that go into a attack downward spiral.

Then I went on to mostly support your thoughts.

If you don’t want me to do anything, then don’t quote me, and just ignore my posts all together.

After all my invested time writing back, you falsely accuse me of attitude I do not have. Go take some chill pills.

When you first came here to RDF, you brought much promise. Now, many of your post are argumentative, and angry (at men?).
 
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Anybody, no matter what the radar detector one owns, that is depending on an RD to save them from Lidar Tickets is only playing Russian Roulette until they get an actual Lidar ticket because ALL Lidar Detectors that don't also have jamming capability are basically useless as far as giving one actual protection against Lidar.

There is NO substitute for Jammers!
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I would rather not play Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun ether though! lol
 

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Vortex is doing a live YouTube chat session right now about the valentine one - no news on the release, but lots of awesome radar information as usual
 

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Vortex is doing a live YouTube chat session right now about the valentine one - no news on the release, but lots of awesome radar information as usual
V1 fans deserve some love too. :)
 

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I had and returned the R7 with firmware 1 level back from current. Not because it wasn't a fine detector but because OVERALL, my V1 with JBV1 for me was at least as good and better for me.
Since I've learned a little more about JBV1, tethering to my work iPhone and running DAZe and JBV1 on my Samsung burner, the V1 just sits quietly above my mirror, pretty much hidden.

Read my other posts but basically MY opinion is if you are looking for a new detector and don't own a V1, the R7 is a formidable competitor. If you already own a modern V1 and use JBV1, save your money because $600 clams is a lot of clams... Also if JBV1 didn't exist I'd already be in the R7 camp. Just my 2 cents as a very long term detector fan, way back to the original Escort and before but not an experienced tweaker at all.. I'm a total noob in that department!
 
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Now, many of your post are argumentative, and angry (at men?).
:rolleyes: how original ..... on a board with 99.9994% men no less, it took some thought to think that one up I bet....... (and a low uncalled for blow, but whatever, statements like that don't bother me a much as they make others look childish).. you didn't want to argue with me, remember? Have a nice day.
 
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V1 fans deserve some love too. :)
Really enjoyed the live stream, but I must say that I'm completely dumbfounded that you ignored V1 Driver as an app option for iPhone users and made it seem like JBV1 was the only true option. Hell, you even mentioned the defunct Stealth Assist!

V1 Driver is a great option that for whatever reason isn't talked about nearly as much as JBV1 on this board, and maybe that's because he charges money for his work, but it's the best $10 I've ever spent in the App Store hands down.
 

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Really enjoyed the live stream, but I must say that I'm completely dumbfounded that you ignored V1 Driver as an app option for iPhone users and made it seem like JBV1 was the only true option. Hell, you even mentioned the defunct Stealth Assist!

V1 Driver is a great option that for whatever reason isn't talked about nearly as much as JBV1 on this board, and maybe that's because he charges money for his work, but it's the best $10 I've ever spent in the App Store hands down.
hehe you're right, V1Driver tends to get overshadowed by JBV1. It adds lockouts which is awesome, but we already have that with other detectors. Some cool features like alert logging we already had with YaV1. JBV1 offers some truly new and unique features which is why I didn't go into as much detail about it even though I did bring it up several times. I'm glad you're enjoying the app though!

Something else I've found is it's impossible to please everyone. Sorry I can't make everyone happy. :)
 
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hehe you're right, V1Driver tends to get overshadowed by JBV1. It adds lockouts which is awesome, but we already have that with other detectors. Some cool features like alert logging we already had with YaV1. JBV1 offers some truly new and unique features which is why I didn't go into as much detail about it even though I did bring it up several times. I'm glad you're enjoying the app though!

Something else I've found is it's impossible to please everyone. Sorry I can't make everyone happy. :)
Oh it takes a lot to make me unhappy these days, so no need to worry about that, haha. I think "puzzled" would be the best description for me.

I simply found it odd that it didn't even get a mention since you even have a section on your website on how to configure settings for V1 Driver.

I'm also not knocking JBV1. I bet @mswlogo would have appreciated a shout out though, since you are kind of a radar detector king maker these days, haha.

Anyhow, carry on and keep doing what you're doing.
 

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Oh it takes a lot to make me unhappy these days, so no need to worry about that, haha. I think "puzzled" would be the best description for me.

I simply found it odd that it didn't even get a mention since you even have a section on your website on how to configure settings for V1 Driver.

I'm also not knocking JBV1. I bet @mswlogo would have appreciated a shout out though, since you are kind of a radar detector king maker these days, haha.

Anyhow, carry on and keep doing what you're doing.
Again, I’m quite sure I brought it up, albeit to a much lesser extent, and it’s in the video description too. Even if I didn’t go into as much detail as you were hoping and cover every single topic in extreme detail, hey it happens, especially in a casual and laid back video. Even when I’m relaxing on the weekend, people complain. You gotta love the internet...
 

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Again, I’m quite sure I brought it up, albeit to a much lesser extent, and it’s in the video description too. Even if I didn’t go into as much detail as you were hoping and cover every single topic in extreme detail, hey it happens, especially in a casual and laid back video. Even when I’m relaxing on the weekend, people complain. You gotta love the internet...
Huh. I must have caught you on an off day. I thought the tone of my posts were pretty cordial, and I complimented you multiple times. If that rises to the level of a complaint and it ruins your weekend relaxation time, I apologize.
 

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Huh. I must have caught you on an off day. I thought the tone of my posts were pretty cordial, and I complimented you multiple times. If that rises to the level of a complaint and it ruins your weekend relaxation time, I apologize.
I meant more about yesterday during the livestream. It was more of an unscripted chit chat with friends. Maybe it would be better to come up with a list of topics to go over beforehand to ensure everything is covered.
 

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Couple Long islands Ice Teas and a Bluemoons as a chasers might have to Patent that.

See what the next month brings. Nice to see a Full OLED as the display replacement

A chaser with a long island?

Bartender friend makes them awesome. Super strong too, tiny splash of coke barely enough to change the color, and so smooth you can slam it just as fast as a glass of regular iced tea
 
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Again, I’m quite sure I brought it up, albeit to a much lesser extent, and it’s in the video description too.
50:15 it's mentioned nicely. :)
 

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I'm assuming no new ones on the patent?
Unfortunately, the patents are old news. It's all a matter of when VR starts putting to use. He's had patents approved in 2015 and 2017 that we haven't seen, and he's still filing applications for improvements to existing patents. He has a methods to take care of a lot of nuisance signals, but is waiting on a patent to pull the trigger.

@woopies started this thread almost 2 years ago, and we're still talking about it, sight unseen.
 

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