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Earlier, before I bought my R1, I was contemplating the Radenso XP. However reading a bit more on the Uniden I decided to go with it. However there was a thread earlier regarding the R1/R3 randomly not detecting any radar, even if there was radar in the area. It appears this happened to me today...I was driving to meet my wife and I pass 2 known K-band falses...nothing. Then I see a state trooper headed opposite me on RTE 38....nothing. Then I thought maybe he didn't have radar and it was a fluke with the 2 places I get false signals. So I put my phone up to the unit---nothing. Make a cal...nothing. At that point I decide to reboot---after rebooting I put the phone up next to the R1 and it "screams" X-band. I make a call and it screams X-band. After lunch I test it again with the phone and it's fine. I pass the 2 spots for falsing and it reports K-band.

I can understand a few bugs and ironing out the kinks but this concerns me....there's a few threads on this I will have to locate.
 

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Earlier, before I bought my R1, I was contemplating the Radenso XP. However reading a bit more on the Uniden I decided to go with it. However there was a thread earlier regarding the R1/R3 randomly not detecting any radar, even if there was radar in the area. It appears this happened to me today...I was driving to meet my wife and I pass 2 known K-band falses...nothing. Then I see a state trooper headed opposite me on RTE 38....nothing. Then I thought maybe he didn't have radar and it was a fluke with the 2 places I get false signals. So I put my phone up to the unit---nothing. Make a cal...nothing. At that point I decide to reboot---after rebooting I put the phone up next to the R1 and it "screams" X-band. I make a call and it screams X-band. After lunch I test it again with the phone and it's fine. I pass the 2 spots for falsing and it reports K-band.

I can understand a few bugs and ironing out the kinks but this concerns me....there's a few threads on this I will have to locate.
So I want to make sure you are saying that your phone is causing the unit to malfunction on detecting radar?
 

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So I want to make sure you are saying that your phone is causing the unit to malfunction on detecting radar?
I don't think so---It's in my left pocket while driving. Not on the dash or anywhere near it---However, if I hold it up to the R1 it will set it off. The unit has been running great until this "concern" showed up today.
 

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I don't think so---It's in my left pocket while driving. Not on the dash or anywhere near it---However, if I hold it up to the R1 it will set it off. The unit has been running great until this "concern" showed up today.
What kind of phone you have?
 

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I have a S7 Edge, with all the reports about interference of Android phones with R3/R1, i guess we should be really careful. I will test mine as soon as i get it and will report back.
 

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I'm running s8 and it's been really scary quiet. I'm debating on returning it before it's too late.

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The time you believe it failed, do you remember if it booted normally going through the sequence of bands selected etc?
 

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I'm running s8 and it's been really scary quiet. I'm debating on returning it before it's too late.

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Returning it will cause 15% restocking fee, doesn't it? In case you ordered from BRD. I doubt Tom will get the Redline EX pretty soon as well.
 

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Re: If this is a bug it's a "deadly" one

I think some of you guys are missing the point because when his phone is in his pocket, the RD works fine. If he puts hit phone right next to it, the detector falses on X band. His detector stopped detecting anything, including known K band sources and a known X false (phone). After rebooting it, the detector started to detect again.

This issue isn't the phone causing a false, the problem is the RD 'going on vacation' for no known reason and without any way of letting you know it is not doing its job. Rebooting will make it function normally again, but there is nothing to warn the user that the RD needs a reboot.
 
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Re: If this is a bug it's a "deadly" one

I think some of you guys are missing the point because when his phone is in his pocket, the RD works fine. If he puts hit phone right next to it, the detector falses on X band. His detector stopped detecting anything, including known K band sources and a known X false (phone). After rebooting it, the detector started to detect again.

This issue isn't the phone causing a false, the problem is the RD 'going on vacation' for no known reason and without any way of letting you know it is not doing its job. Rebooting will make it function normally again, but there is nothing to warn the user that the RD needs a reboot.
...and that's what's scary. It booted up just fine and alerted to nothing. there was no warning, everything reacted normally (Heartbeat, voltage,etc). I will have to keep an eye on this….BTW, it was sitting in my windshield for 4 hrs on a hot, humid day. Possibly that affected it?
 

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...and that's what's scary. It booted up just fine and alerted to nothing. there was no warning, everything reacted normally (Heartbeat, voltage,etc). I will have to keep an eye on this….BTW, it was sitting in my windshield for 4 hrs on a hot, humid day. Possibly that affected it?
That Shouldnt matter (shouldnt being key word here) if that were the case all RDs would have issues. Its not the first report of a phone putting the Uniden to sleep. Cause for concern for sure.
 

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Earlier, before I bought my R1, I was contemplating the Radenso XP. However reading a bit more on the Uniden I decided to go with it. However there was a thread earlier regarding the R1/R3 randomly not detecting any radar, even if there was radar in the area. It appears this happened to me today...I was driving to meet my wife and I pass 2 known K-band falses...nothing. Then I see a state trooper headed opposite me on RTE 38....nothing. Then I thought maybe he didn't have radar and it was a fluke with the 2 places I get false signals. So I put my phone up to the unit---nothing. Make a cal...nothing. At that point I decide to reboot---after rebooting I put the phone up next to the R1 and it "screams" X-band. I make a call and it screams X-band. After lunch I test it again with the phone and it's fine. I pass the 2 spots for falsing and it reports K-band.

I can understand a few bugs and ironing out the kinks but this concerns me....there's a few threads on this I will have to locate.
The Unidens filter out falses, more specifically BSM's but that can bleed into filtering falses like some speed signs. I have seen and experienced it with my 950. Sure it was concerning but i was assured since it was a false and not a real threat it was doing as it should.

What im not sure about is this statement. "Then I thought maybe he didn't have radar and it was a fluke with the 2 places I get false signals." what does that mean?

As far as a phone causing a RD to false that's pretty normal, my GF girls iPhones used to make my V1 false laser all the time but not evry time. I had X off so only encountered that when testing and that can be inconsistent too.
 

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Re: If this is a bug it's a "deadly" one

That Shouldnt matter (shouldnt being key word here) if that were the case all RDs would have issues. Its not the first report of a phone putting the Uniden to sleep. Cause for concern for sure.
I think it's a jump to conclude the phone is putting the RD to sleep. If that was the case, he should be seeing it much more often, or at least be able to reproduce it by holding his phone near it on start up.
 

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Re: If this is a bug it's a "deadly" one

...and that's what's scary. It booted up just fine and alerted to nothing. there was no warning, everything reacted normally (Heartbeat, voltage,etc). I will have to keep an eye on this….BTW, it was sitting in my windshield for 4 hrs on a hot, humid day. Possibly that affected it?
I see no clear evidence anything is wrong. Only time will tell.
 

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Re: If this is a bug it's a "deadly" one

I think some of you guys are missing the point because when his phone is in his pocket, the RD works fine. If he puts hit phone right next to it, the detector falses on X band. His detector stopped detecting anything, including known K band sources and a known X false (phone). After rebooting it, the detector started to detect again.

This issue isn't the phone causing a false, the problem is the RD 'going on vacation' for no known reason and without any way of letting you know it is not doing its job. Rebooting will make it function normally again, but there is nothing to warn the user that the RD needs a reboot.
this is exactly what he is saying
 

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^^ these guys make a good point. If you can repeat this and test against a legit known source it would help to tell if there really is an issue.
 

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^^ these guys make a good point. If you can repeat this and test against a legit known source it would help to tell if there really is an issue.
That's what I plan on doing---if it happens again. I'll know rather quickly as my daily commute takes me past known falses at various locations. I've had it for two weeks and this is only the first time noticing this "concern".
 

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...and that's what's scary. It booted up just fine and alerted to nothing. there was no warning, everything reacted normally (Heartbeat, voltage,etc). I will have to keep an eye on this….BTW, it was sitting in my windshield for 4 hrs on a hot, humid day. Possibly that affected it?
Take care of your detector and it will take care of YOU!

Heat can negatively affect the performance of these Uniden detectors, according to [MENTION=3989]BestRadarDetectors[/MENTION] (I think he has posted about this here in the recent past). I would strongly recommend NOT letting them bake in a hot car, especially in the hottest part of summer. And if you do happen to bake it, then get some airflow over it for a while to cool it down before you expect it to work properly.

The Unidens may in fact be running "hotter" than any other detector on the market. Some here speculate that Uniden have designed the detector so that the antenna acts as a heatsink. So if that's true and you let your detector bake, then it's probably getting so hot that it's not working properly until it cools down to within normal operating temps. BRD has previously advised us to direct some airflow towards our units to avoid them overheating, so maybe consider doing that.

My Nexus 5 also causes X band falses on my R3, but it's usually only when I'm out in the sticks. I think the Rs might be extra sensitive to spurious nearby signals and hence susceptible to cell phone interference more than other detectors.

So heat and interference are two things we need to be mindful of.
 

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Take care of your detector and it will take care of YOU!

Heat can negatively affect the performance of these Uniden detectors, according to [MENTION=3989]BestRadarDetectors[/MENTION] (I think he has posted about this here in the recent past). I would strongly recommend NOT letting them bake in a hot car, especially in the hottest part of summer. And if you do happen to bake it, then get some airflow over it for a while to cool it down before you expect it to work properly.

The Unidens may in fact be running "hotter" than any other detector on the market. Some here speculate that Uniden have designed the detector so that the antenna acts as a heatsink. So if that's true and you let your detector bake, then it's probably getting so hot that it's not working properly until it cools down to within normal operating temps. BRD has previously advised us to direct some airflow towards our units to avoid them overheating, so maybe consider doing that.

My Nexus 5 also causes X band falses on my R3, but it's usually only when I'm out in the sticks. I think the Rs might be extra sensitive to spurious nearby signals and hence susceptible to cell phone interference more than other detectors.

So heat and interference are two things we need to be mindful of.
Excellent point! I don't think it's a good thing to leave any RD on the windshield and let it bake in a hot car. IME, doing so caused K band detection my Magnum to drop out without warning, and caused 33.8 detection to disappear on my 3.894 V1. OTOH my Redlines seemed to be fine in the heat, as well as my R1. But why chance it?

As far as cell phone interference I have not seen that so far with the R1. At our Midwest Test Event there were 3 cell phones on at the same in my car, and it had no impact on detection time. The only thing that has interfered with it so far has been my Baofeng UV-5R radio and that is a polluting machine lol. I don't use bluetooth and my cell is about 2-3 feet away from my R1 so maybe that made interference less likely.

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