New Net Digital

Discussion in 'NetRadar' started by Nine_C1, Jul 27, 2017.

  1. Deacon

    Deacon TXCTG Advanced User Premium Member

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    I understand your position. It's just a poor proposition. Even if a kludgy Bluetooth speaker addition were feasible, I would still have to interact with my phone to do something as simple as mute an alert. Unless I then buy and add yet another device, this time a 3rd party Flic button stuck on my dash somewhere.

    The whole thing is a mess, and it all comes down to the legacy hardware limitation of the CPU. I know it's important for business reasons to hold onto that platform with that limitation as long as possible. I hope one day that will no longer be a limitation, as it will remove the one truly legitimate hurdle to adoption.

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    I'll probably break down and end up doing it anyway, but it will be very much begrudgingly! LOL
     
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  2. CRS123

    CRS123 Velocity: r = d / t Intermediate User Premium Member

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    I bought a cheap android used phone on amazon....and take the headphone jack out to a cheap, very small and loud speaker cube. I use this setup for my ALP/Net Radar Hi Fi BT COMBO. Works great. This frees up my iPhone for normal use and pairing with the BT for my car music etc. I don't understand why people aren't understanding this simple workaround.
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  3. tphank1

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    THe only thing I miss from hifi in BT, is the HiFi Pro sounds of the laser when being targeted.
     
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  4. angrypenguin

    angrypenguin Eat Lead Mothertrucker!! Beginner User

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    If you use the BT app, this function goes away when one has both the BT app and the HIFI module? I thought in the app you can specify to still output the sounds to an external source? (which I thought was the HIFI thing?)

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    Because it looks ugly. I don't want wires going absolutely everywhere in my car. I have an incredibly discrete setup and I prefer it that way.
     
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  5. jon5

    jon5 PSL + (O / U) Intermediate User

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    IMO, this is what it comes down to. It's all one giant hacky mess - missing that clean polish finish.

    Exactly, workarounds aren't meant to be permanent!

    It's literally the one reason i haven't pulled the trigger.
     
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  6. Deacon

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    Please check the attitude. It's not a question of "understanding" kludgy workarounds for the CPU's fundamental limitations. It's disagreeing that these various workarounds are viable and acceptable permanent solutions.
     
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  7. midd

    midd Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

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    Can't wait for the new antenna!!!
     
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  8. LED Foot

    LED Foot Chasing parked cars (at Night) General User

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    Yeah new one up front and old one in back....we finally have "arrows"



    Yeah sorry.. I was using WE in the Royal sense...I have not jumped on the arrow bandwagon yet....waiting patiently.
     
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  9. midd

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    well arrows for NR have been out for a while now. But I get what you're saying. Arrows with better range up front.
     
  10. CRS123

    CRS123 Velocity: r = d / t Intermediate User Premium Member

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    No " attitude" here....I simply understand that a " workaround" is not permanent, and that this product is evolving and improving at a relatively fast pace. In the meantime....I'm enjoying the protection of front and back radar and ALP protection.
     
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  11. midd

    midd Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

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    Agreed.
     
  12. Deacon

    Deacon TXCTG Advanced User Premium Member

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    No, unfortunately, what you should actually understand is that Tom has said there are no plans any time in the foreseeable future to release an updated CPU that doesn't have that limitation. Now, that could be him just playing ALP's cards close to the vest, and he could surprise us all with a new CPU, but there's no reason to not take him at face value on that, and other indications (such as new offers to get people onto the current CPU) suggest it's not smoke and mirrors, that no such new release is imminent and he's just playing coy.

    So what you need to understand is that what's being discussed is not a workaround but a "permanent" solution. As always, it's of course up to each individual to not only detangle the options to figure out what they might want to run but also whether the end result is something they're willing to invest in heavily. At the moment a full-on implementation (2+TX for front and rear with GPS and front and rear antennas, HiFi, and Bluetooth) is over $3,100 for the current generation of NetRadar, perhaps higher with the new generation coming later as discussed in this thread. Plus apparently the cost of a dedicated phone, a mount for it, speakers, Flic button, and you're looking at a hefty bill for a hodgepodge of complicated hardware to be stuck together with bubble gum and bailing wire. That doesn't include the cost of installation.

    There are always lots of factors to consider. But please don't condescend to others who aren't satisfied with the permanent workarounds you've decided are "good enough" for you.
     
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  13. angrypenguin

    angrypenguin Eat Lead Mothertrucker!! Beginner User

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    Could not have put it better myself.
     
  14. BestRadarDetectors

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    Of course we are always planning for the future and we are never stagnant. We released the ALP in 2013 and many users are now running 4+ years on the same hardware. The goal is always to extend the use of existing product and give people their money's worth. At some point we will have to move on but there is still plenty life left in the existing platform and the modular capability of the ALP has allowed old users to keep up with new users.

    The ALP was designed as a laser only system initially but as we got more and more involved it has really started steering into a more complete radar and laser solution. The Net Radar DSP is going to be geared not only for the US market but also for the international market and it will be available in 22 different countries out the gate which is a major accomplishment for us and the reason its taking longer than I had hoped. We expected it out by the Holiday season and I am still confident it will be available before the end of the year.

    What I can guarantee anyone is that the ALP/Net Radar system will always keep improving and we wont leave old users behind.
     
  15. Deacon

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    Understood and appreciated. Hopefully before too long in the future the radar detection aspect of an ALP defense solution will graduate from workable afterthought to fully integrated (and most likely superior) platform to more directly take on all aspects of the offerings from the likes of Stinger and Escort.

    I fully realize that from a salesman perspective, downplaying limitations of the offering is required. But in the role of product development (and customer service), acknowledging that the limitations exist and indicating that there are long-term plans to address them would be preferable to calling those who are struggling with them drama queens and suggesting that the limitations are insignificant and the current system ideal.
     
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  16. BestRadarDetectors

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    There are 1000's of Net Radar users that are not forum members and I can tell you they are very happy. 80% of those users dont even use BT and they love the simplicity of a single controller and LED. K40 probably outsells everyone and they also dont have a display and use 2 LED's. Sometimes forum members need to realize they are not the majority of users and while we try to implement everything we can for forum members the every day users are the ones who drive the business. For every complaint on this thread there is a work around. It may not be what you want but there is a work around. If we sold a separate display and a wire to an external speaker what difference would it be verse buying an cheap Android Device and an amplified speaker?
     
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  17. SpectreR3

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    One issue might be getting caught adjusting settings or looking at the display of a smartphone while behind the wheel moving or not. I know in Canada the penalties are steep and extensive. It's not like you could say I wasn't texting or using my phone officer. I was adjusting settings on my radar detector. Lol. At least. That's not a good idea for a good chunk of Canada. I'd sooner a small discrete display and or controller. Wouldn't be a big issue for me. But. I feel if I need a dedicated phone. I won't be a customer of that particular unit. I'll stick to the R series. Despite being a bit nervous with the Elite. I've seen no additional tests other than vortex orignal drive by and approach tests. I wish he'd do a video of it in some random positions in the vehicle.

    Sent From Deep Within Spectreland
     
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  18. angrypenguin

    angrypenguin Eat Lead Mothertrucker!! Beginner User

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    Just an OT comment. For me to buy the new NetRadar DSP, I, and my colleagues I suspect in Ontario, will want to see testing done in videos about Spectre vs the DSP unit. The videos about the current NR unit turned me off so I went with Radenso. Waiting for the new NR results and if they are positive or at least similar to the Radenso v Spectre, I'll be sure to pick up a new NR DSP.
     
  19. midd

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    @Deacon So if you are unsatisified, the solution is to hijack a thread and complain about a product you don't own? Do you do that for every car make and model other than the one you drive? What's with the hostility man??

     
  20. G37X Jockey

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    We all have our own specific preferences regarding CM setups. Once I replace my V1 with the new digital antenna, the only sign of a CM in my cabin will be my phone which leaves the car with me, so there will be nothing for prying eyes to see. Clipping my phone onto it's vent bracket is much less fussy than moving my V1 in and out of the car. Just my 2 cents.
     
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