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Think about all the cars people may not even see or be paying attention to enough to mark as a threat. What about all the stealth and unmarked cars that you might be driving by unnoticed or creeping up on in the left lane. This could be completely passive for the user, requiring no interaction. A network of Dashcams (maybe the RDFGS2.0 device) could be constantly on the lookout and we could out big brother big brother.

I imagine we can get all the license plates for most of the police vehicles because I'm sure it's got to be public record somewhere.
 
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Around here they all read SHP-xxxx for the highway patrol.
Odd colored Chargers with hidden antennas. It would be cool to be notified of them if they were to be recognized automatically. :)
 

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Definitely a good idea and something I have been playing around with. Its super easy when the plate number starts with some predefined numbers or characters but around here, your only indication is instead of "California" it says "CA EXEMPT"......

Cool thing about this is that everyone who wants to use RDFGS 2.0 will should have all the necessary hardware: a mobile dde
 

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Plate reader would be nice. I was thinking of coding something up since all the cop cars in GA have a GV prefix.
 

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From time to time people will create threads like this one:


that indicate increased enforcement that is disclosed from public sources, sometimes via Facebook and Twitter feeds of the Departments themselves.

Can this all be fed into a single source stream so that it happens automatically and pushed through RDFGS?
 

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From time to time people will create threads like this one:


that indicate increased enforcement that is disclosed from public sources, sometimes via Facebook and Twitter feeds of the Departments themselves.

Can this all be fed into a single source stream so that it happens automatically and pushed through RDFGS?
We can push it to the RDFGSv2 but I don't think it can be done automatically - that would require some sort of standardization of the links posted (i.e. an RSS feed even) with the data required to be pushed.
 

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From time to time people will create threads like this one:


that indicate increased enforcement that is disclosed from public sources, sometimes via Facebook and Twitter feeds of the Departments themselves.

Can this all be fed into a single source stream so that it happens automatically and pushed through RDFGS?
We can push it to the RDFGSv2 but I don't think it can be done automatically - that would require some sort of standardization of the links posted (i.e. an RSS feed even) with the data required to be pushed.
I wonder if it could work something like Amazon questions? Basically, it could ask a RDFGS2.0 user in the area, "Do you know if (something RDFGS believes to be true from the article that's relevant to RDFGS)? Then the local user could verify it or perform other actions to help out others.........say they might read the article and go into RDFGS to mark some sections of highway or add a cloud sourced alert for other users.
 

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I wonder if it could work something like Amazon questions? Basically, it could ask a RDFGS2.0 user in the area, "Do you know if (something RDFGS believes to be true from the article that's relevant to RDFGS)? Then the local user could verify it or perform other actions to help out others.........say they might read the article and go into RDFGS to mark some sections of highway or add a cloud sourced alert for other users.
You are still intending on automatically importing the data though?
 

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You are still intending on automatically importing the data though?
You could start out just making some type of bot to mine seeming relevant data from the interwebs or known verified social media accounts and then present it to the users for them to do something with. Kind of like Google Now? Maybe after a while it could be fine tuned to recognize certain things and basically ask some yes or no questions of a user before marking routes automatically. Start out simple with more user interaction and slowly get as much as possible automated over time.

You could probably use Google and Amazons tendencies to spy on us against the 5-0. Just have an account for the RDFGS bot that is always looking up data on police and speed enforcement and pretty soon google would be serving stuff up for it's consumption without any work on your part.
 
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You could start out just making some type of bot to mine seeming relevant data from the interwebs or known verified social media accounts and then present it to the users for them to do something with. Kind of like Google Now? Maybe after a while it could be fine tuned to recognize certain things and basically ask some yes or no questions of a user before marking routes automatically. Start out simple with more user interaction and slowly get as much as possible automated over time.

You could probably use Google and Amazons tendencies to spy on us against the 5-0. Just have an account for the RDFGS bot that is always looking up data on police and speed enforcement and pretty soon google would be serving stuff up for it's consumption without any work on your part.
Find me a site or social media entry that is anywhere near standardized and we can look into it.
 

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I think that for now, you could let the users sort it out. Use them as computers to determine the relevancy of the information. Have Google serve your bot account with speed enforcement info and hopefully you'd be able to at least separate it by state, even better by city, but state would be good enough. Then send the info to users in that state and ask them to verify the data and do something about it like mark the map. Don't send all users, all reports. Break it up so they don't each have questions to answer every day. The more users, the less work each individual has to do until they may only get a question once in a blue moon. You would also send the same info to more than one user so it would be corroborated by multiple sources. You could even have an option for users to self report this data if they wanted to and then corroborate that by asking other users about the self-reported data....etc.

Something more complex could be done later but having the users go over the data stops the immediate necessity for standardized data and keeps you from having to write too many fancy algorithms.
 
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Time for some OCR to detect what radar/laser guns are shown in posted photos!
 

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Innovation Zone | OVH Labs has machine learning and image recognition in beta testing if anyone is looking to play around with that/OCR.

As far as this goes:

Feel free to play around with this one:
On second thought, this one is better: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1401429590079824&ref=content_filter

They do ” safe speed location” updates regularly.
I don't know that ANY of this can be automated. None of the data is in any standardized format.

I think the best idea would be to make a simple form and allow people to add data to the RDFGSv2 for that specific item in a few short entries instead of doing it automated like you want - I just don't think the automation can be done without formatted data.
 

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Innovation Zone | OVH Labs has machine learning and image recognition in beta testing if anyone is looking to play around with that/OCR.

As far as this goes:



I don't know that ANY of this can be automated. None of the data is in any standardized format.

I think the best idea would be to make a simple form and allow people to add data to the RDFGSv2 for that specific item in a few short entries instead of doing it automated like you want - I just don't think the automation can be done without formatted data.
I'd be good with that. Guessing something along the lines of crowd sourced speed trap alerts differentiated from confirmed sightings of LEO?
 

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I'd be good with that. Guessing something along the lines of crowd sourced speed trap alerts differentiated from confirmed sightings of LEO?
Yes, data like that is meant to be scraped (well, formatted to be able to be scraped, at least, ;)).
 

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Think about all the cars people may not even see or be paying attention to enough to mark as a threat. What about all the stealth and unmarked cars that you might be driving by unnoticed or creeping up on in the left lane. This could be completely passive for the user, requiring no interaction. A network of Dashcams (maybe the RDFGS2.0 device) could be constantly on the lookout and we could out big brother big brother.

I imagine we can get all the license plates for most of the police vehicles because I'm sure it's got to be public record somewhere.
We could hijack this project: OpenALPR - Automatic License Plate Recognition :: openalpr/openalpr to check license plates.
 

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We could hijack this project: OpenALPR - Automatic License Plate Recognition :: openalpr/openalpr to check license plates.
Absolutely, that's actually one of the ones I was looking at for ALPR functionality.

Actually, I never thought about how this could actually be effective for the RDFGSv2, for countermeasure purposes, but OBeer stated a good reason regarding our database of plates (via ALPR acquired, user entered, etc) - to do actual detection of any cars around you that might be creeping/whatever - even though the detection for this stuff would definitely have its limits when it comes to reliability it is still something in addition to every other metric, so we'll DEFINITELY be integrating this as a function.
 

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Having ALPR function recorded or noted in dashcam video would be awesome. I’m not sure how you’d really pull it off, or maybe it would all have to be post-processing on a PC after the fact, but hit and runs, crazy people, whatever it is, it would be nice sometimes if the software can work out the plate when it’s hard to tell as humans. Sadly not all LEO tags are identifiable as such, either.
 

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Remember also that with this type of cloud sourcing you're not always helping yourself. It may be that you don't get the advantage of a certain alert from a license plate from your own camera, but other users will get that alert and you will get the alerts from other users cameras. Maybe a user up ahead just passed a car with a license plate in the db. You could be alerted that 2 minutes ago, a LEO was there.
 

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