Official Uniden R1/R3 issues guide

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PLEASE TRY A FACTORY RESET AND FIRMWARE REFLASH BEFORE REPORTING ANY NEW ISSUES, THANK YOU

So there's a mess of threads here, making it hard to keep track of some issues, and just making a general mess of the section. With permission from Andrew21 I'm starting the "official" thread if you will, which I will be updating constantly.

If anyone has any suggestions on how to make it better, let me know, but I prefer to keep it as similar as possible from the first time I post through to the end of Uniden's updates, hopefully multiple years down the road, and then somewhat beyond if new issues come up.

Color key:
Red - PERFORMANCE RELATED issues that are known but have not had updates to fix yet.
Blue - non-performance related issues
Orange - issues that should be fixed in production units or aren't confirmed to be true issues, most likely just subjective expectations of a radar detector's features and performance. I will be leaving most of these in so anyone new/unregistered viewing it doesn't have to create an account to ask a question about them. For example high temperatures or X falses will almost certainly stay on, but orange.
Green - issues that are solved via firmware updates
Known issues:

#1 K POP On alerts outside of K narrow range even with KN on: Choose Life pointed out that K POP on with K Narrow will alert to K-band frequencies outside of the range of K Narrow, at least above 24.200 (the K Narrow cutoff) but possibly not below 24.080. Not a huge issue but it is performance related.

#2 Mounts: Myself and many other users find that the sticky cup-style mount is useless as it comes from the factory on steeply swept-back windshields. At the lowest possible angle, they still aim up 5-15º which is not ideal for radar detection. The stalk on the part of the mount that sticks to your windshield can be filed where the retainer ring is hitting it, as well as the ring itself. This allows several more degrees of adjustment, but is done at your own risk as you could damage your mount if you're not careful. Another fix for this that some users have done is to obtain a Garmin GPS mount with a ball and socket style arm, so far it's been reported all known Garmin mounts with the proper ball and socket style arm work.

Many users also do not like the fact that the mount point on the detector is part of the lens. This will cause scratches on the lens over time, although they will not affect detection of radar, and shouldn't affect laser detection unless you scratch the laser detection area (the small round bulb) directly. This can be fixed by putting something like clear packing tape or electrical tape around the mounting slot and carefully cutting a slit in it for the mount to go in.

#3 RLC repeated alerts/incorrect muting: When stopped at a stoplight near an RLC area, the GPS might jump around a few feet and cause repeated RLC alerts. Vortex mentioned this to Uniden so they are aware of it. It's unknown whether this will be fixed in the future. Thankfully it's quite a minor and infrequent issue. In addition to this, when you try to mute a radar source while you're near a RLC alert, the R3 will ask to delete the RLC point rather than mute the radar source.

#4 X-band falses: Some users report a high number of X falses, but this is likely due to the extreme sensitivity. It's picking up falses that other detectors didn't have the sensitivity to detect.

#5 High operating temperature: BRD has stated DSP detectors tend to run hot, and that the R1/R3 need to be mounted on the windshield with the bottom vent holes exposed for best cooling. Highly unlikely to be a true issue at this point in time. See post #3 below for analysis and temperature readings, as well as post #13.

#3 GPS speed and lock performance: Obviously this could only be an issue with the R3, since the R1 doesn't have GPS. Some users report very long delays after turning on their RD before a GPS signal is acquired, difficulty acquiring a lock in certain places, and GPS speed reading up to 3mph high compared to other sources. Odds are this is NOT a device issue and there are naturally variations in satellite signal strength day-to-day and hour-to-hour depending on satellite position and weather.

Issues that have been resolved:

#1 Constant 35.5 false: Some users were reporting a constant or near constant 35.5GHz false alert on their Rx detectors, firmware 1.26 has resolved this.

#2 Polarized sunglasses: There are a couple reports that suggest some of the vertically polarized preproduction units made it out into the wild, causing issues with polarized sunglasses. The reports are very limited currently. Please contact Uniden if you have this issue, they'll replace your unit's screen for you.

#3 Frequency ghosting across K and Ka frequencies: Pre-1.30 firmware, the Uniden R1 and R3 would sometimes display a strong K signal as Ka with Ka wide enabled, and vice versa. Also, sometimes when you turned off Ka, a Ka source would show up as K. This is now fixed!

#4 Lockout frequency range too wide: The lockout frequency tolerance used to be very wide at 50MHz which locked out most of K band when you locked out a centered frequency. This is now reduced to +/- 30MHz.

#5 Quiet alerts: Some users were reporting tones were too quiet, make sure you have automute disabled, and try scrolling through the alert tones to find one you like. If you're POSITIVE the tones are super quiet even on high volume with automute off and know you have good hearing, try contacting BRD/Uniden.

And of course let me know if I missed anything.
 
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OK, but now you can't ever leave the Forum, 'cause who would tend to this thread then?!?!? :p (unless of course, Uniden can solve every issue from every member, including the conflicting ones) :D
 
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I'm going to go do some temperature testing, leaving my R3 on in the sun while I wash my car, then I'll check it with my FLIR camera and show the surface temperature. I'll update OP with a link referring to this post which I will update with temperatures and pictures as soon as I'm done. I'd rather keep the pics in this reply than the OP just to keep the main post a little bit cleaner.

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Apologies for the slight misalignment of my FLIR camera, I need to adjust that. I also forgot that it doesn't include the maximum and minimum temperature gradient in the picture like it displays on the screen when I'm taking the picture. The maximum temperature was 135f +/- a few degrees for each picture, the white/pink parts are the hottest, and the yellow parts are the coolest. Ignore the blue, that's my seat/floor and irrelevant.

This was about 45 minutes in the sun, absolutely no ventilation in my car, sun glaring straight overhead. It's mounted in the top of my windshield behind the black dots, so you could expect a few more degrees if you mount it behind clear glass. 135f is definitely not that hot. It feels hot, sure, but it's nothing for modern electronics, even when you consider the components themselves are probably quite a bit hotter.
 
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Shouldn't 2,3,4 be orange? I'm not convinced these are true issues and more subjective complaints or misunderstanding of ones detector. Almost all detectors false to laser for one reason or another and GPS locking can be really slow for a variety of reasons. The volume deal is also highly subjective in nature unless someone measures the dB.

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Shouldn't 2,3,4 be orange?
Agreed. I think "black" is the wrong choice of color for text. Maybe Red for known issues, Green for resolved issues, Black or Purple or something for questionable issues. And those issues 2, 3, and 4 are certainly not (yet?) known product development or production issues.
 
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Agreed. I think "black" is the wrong choice of color for text. Maybe Red for known issues, Green for resolved issues, Black or Purple or something for questionable issues. And those issues 2, 3, and 4 are certainly not (yet?) known product development or production issues.
Yeah, I'm of the opinion an issue isn't an issue until there's good evidence that it truly is. I like to take the approach of innocent until proven guilty. It also helps prevent a flooding of false issues to the manufacturer, especially when BRD and Uniden are very responsive. Fair thing to do IMO.

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I will be doing a burn-in test with a 12v power supply as I usually do with mobile electronics. I have an infrared temperature gauge as well as
an STIR + and 15 different models of cheap Cobra detectors on my bench. The Re-Firb place by me dumped thousands in a waste bin due to fire and my wife scored a bunch for me.

I'll measure temperature as well as the interference if any during various power on and running sequences.

This is how I found both the STIR and Redline were alerting to each other and to the Cobra's during menu changes and power on.

I never shared the info as I wasn't a member yet but will do my best to document what I see.
 

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I understand that the sticky cup mount not working is frustrating, but is it really an issue? They have provided a 2nd mount that should work. It seems like this 2nd mount is the resolution to those with the sticky cup problem. Is there anyone that can't make at least one of the two mounts work?
 

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Shouldn't 2,3,4 be orange? I'm not convinced these are true issues and more subjective complaints or misunderstanding of ones detector. Almost all detectors false to laser for one reason or another and GPS locking can be really slow for a variety of reasons. The volume deal is also highly subjective in nature unless someone measures the dB.

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I thought you were trying to band seg my post there for a second when I read the 2...

I don't see enough evidence to deny them being potential real issues for some users yet. The laser one like I said I plan on changing to probably not a real issue soon. Decided I will change laser falses to probable nonissue with a note.

As for the GPS, there seem to be enough users reporting the issues, especially overreporting speed, I don't feel comfortable moving that into probable nonissues yet. If I get a unanimous agreement that it should be orange, I'll go ahead and mark it as such.

As for the alert volume, I'm trying to meet up with FoxStang who reports issues of different bands being too quiet while others are fine, as several others have. If it had been just one person reporting the issue, I would have skipped it for now or put it as a probable nonissue. I don't feel comfortable enough adding it to the orange color code yet, as it might be important for someone who has trouble hearing and might see this thread before attempting to order.

Agreed. I think "black" is the wrong choice of color for text. Maybe Red for known issues, Green for resolved issues, Black or Purple or something for questionable issues. And those issues 2, 3, and 4 are certainly not (yet?) known product development or production issues.
Will revise color coding ASAP, thanks for the feedback!

I understand that the sticky cup mount not working is frustrating, but is it really an issue? They have provided a 2nd mount that should work. It seems like this 2nd mount is the resolution to those with the sticky cup problem. Is there anyone that can't make at least one of the two mounts work?
I'd like to get some opinions on this, I see it as an issue that could deter some people and may be important enough. I could also add a 4th color for things that are NOT performance-related but still could be considered issues.

You need to add misidentification of frequency. Mine tells me that a Ka band speed sign is K band if I turn off Ka band alerts.
Will do.
 
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spongebob,

Can you add this to the list?

My R3 will cycle through the alerts twice upon start up with Self Test on with Escorts hardwire. Then, I plugged in the cord the R3 came with, and it only cycles through once. Plugged it back into the Escort cord, and only cycled once this time. I will see if it continues to cycle through twice.
 

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M360 was out in the car so that's why it was hotter. But here it is running for an hour. Not a great test since it's not in a hot car.

[video=youtube;EPLvdoKcoak]https://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=EPLvdoKcoak[/video]
 
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spongebob,

Can you add this to the list?

My R3 will cycle through the alerts twice upon start up with Self Test on with Escorts hardwire. Then, I plugged in the cord the R3 came with, and it only cycles through once. Plugged it back into the Escort cord, and only cycled once this time. I will see if it continues to cycle through twice.
I'm not entirely sure this is an issue? If it was happening with the Uniden cord, then it would definitely be an issue. But using the Escort cord is definitely not intended use of either the cord itself or the R1/R3. Are you saying you think perhaps it may be causing damage/performance issues to use the Escort cord with the Rx detectors? If that's what you were getting at, I could see adding it as long as I get some other reports.
 

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spongebob,

Can you add this to the list?

My R3 will cycle through the alerts twice upon start up with Self Test on with Escorts hardwire. Then, I plugged in the cord the R3 came with, and it only cycles through once. Plugged it back into the Escort cord, and only cycled once this time. I will see if it continues to cycle through twice.
How is this an issue when you're using a Live cord from another mfg??
 

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It is not an R3 cord so that is no issue.
 

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It is not an R3 cord so that is no issue.
This part is true but if it turned out that somehow the Escort cord was causing damage, I would definitely add it to try to make sure people know so they don't damage their detectors. I highly doubt it's damaging it, but it was just a possibility. If it can make the startup cycle weird, it could be doing other things. I don't plan on adding at this point.
 

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I understand that the sticky cup mount not working is frustrating, but is it really an issue? They have provided a 2nd mount that should work. It seems like this 2nd mount is the resolution to those with the sticky cup problem. Is there anyone that can't make at least one of the two mounts work?
Same thing I think, If Uniden left it out and just gave us the small bracket with two suction cups on it (like every other windshield mount...) no one would have complained. They toss an extra mount in there, and people complain both won't work. I can't really see any advantages to the bigger one anyway, besides it being bigger and sticking out more, but that's personal preference so I can understand if some people like it.
 
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Pretty sure he posted this before he found out the cord may be the issue.
Yup. Plus, I was told Escorts cords would be fine, but everyone, including myself failed to differentiate between the different types of cords.
 

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