TXCTG – Van Alstyne Ka 34.7 & K-Band Testing of R3, Redline and Magnums (05-21-2017)

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INTRO

After getting the latest FW (1.25) for the R3 from Uniden, I decided to go do a little more testing on 34.7 and K-band. So I loaded the car up and headed up to the course at Van Alstyne to try things again. This time, I decided to test the R3 against my Redline, WB Magnum and PK Magnum.

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THE DETECTORS

Uniden R3 – (BS69)
Escort Redline - (BS69)
Beltronics WB Magnum (BS69)
Beltronics PK Magnum (BS69)

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THE COURSE

The Van Alstyne Course is just over 3 miles long. It’s straight, with some high and low spots along the way. High spots are at 3 miles, 2.1 miles, 1.7 miles, and 1 mile.

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The radars were positioned on a road grader at the north end of the course.

Radar Position 5-21-2017.jpg

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RESULTS


  • Table for each test is ranked ordered from first to last with range, delta from the leader and percentage of the leader.
  • Graph for each test is ranked ordered from first to last with range, delta from the leader and percentage of the leader.
  • All tables and graphs are color coded by detector.

Ka 34.7 Results

TXCTG Van Alstyne 34.7 Results Table Ranked 5-21-2017.jpg

TXCTG Van Alstyne 34.7 Results Graph Ranked 5-21-2017.jpg

Ka 34.7 Commentary

  • 34.7 was quite close between all the detectors, and was pretty much course limited.
  • The R3 once again took top honors, even if only by a bit.
  • The Redline was solidly in second place ahead of the Magnums.
  • The PK Magnum actually managed to squeak ahead of the WB Magnum this time, though not by much.

K-Band Results


TXCTG Van Alstyne K-Band Results Table Ranked 5-21-2017.jpg

TXCTG Van Alstyne K-Band Results Graph Ranked 5-21-2017.jpg

K-Band Commentary

  • R3 also took top honors on K-band, and was course limited.
  • Redline was a pretty close second, and pretty much course limited.
  • WB magnum took third, but had some trouble with consistency with two good runs and one not so good.
  • PK Magnum was fourth, and also had consistency problems, with one pretty good run, and two not so good runs.
  • I also again did three runs with the R3 in City mode. Again, I came away unimpressed with range in city mode. Half a mile to three quarters of a mile is ok for city driving (but nothing special). If you are running in City mode on the Hwy to cut down on BSMs, that kind of range is bordering on dangerous. You might miss I/O further ahead, or be lacking the needed sensitivity if conditions are tough. I’m very glad that Uniden is going to be giving us user selectable sensitivity in a future FW update, as that should alleviate this issue.

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FINAL THOUGHTS

I suppose folks are getting tired of seeing R3 test results at this point, and just want to get their R3/R1 detectors in their OWN hands. I can’t say that I blame you. I really missed having the preproduction R3 in my hands while it was with hiddencam for his excellent test last week.

I will end this with my usual admonishment. This is just one test. Make sure to check all the tests, by all the testers, and on the variety of courses, to get to a complete picture of the R3 (if you haven’t ordered one already)!
 
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Re: TXCTG – Van Alstyne Ka 34.7 & K-Band Testing of R3, Redline and Magnums (05-21-20

Good job. Not enough delta there to really make a difference. 34.7 has always been Redlines strong suit anyway. Thanks for testing ;)
 

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Re: TXCTG – Van Alstyne Ka 34.7 & K-Band Testing of R3, Redline and Magnums (05-21-20

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INTRO

After getting the latest FW (1.25) for the R3 from Uniden, I decided to go do a little more testing on 34.7 and K-band. So I loaded the car up and headed up to the course at Van Alstyne to try things again. This time, I decided to test the R3 against my Redline, WB Magnum and PK Magnum.

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THE DETECTORS

Uniden R3 – (BS69)
Escort Redline - (BS69)
Beltronics WB Magnum (BS69)
Beltronics PK Magnum (BS69)

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THE COURSE

The Van Alstyne Course is just over 3 miles long. It’s straight, with some high and low spots along the way. High spots are at 3 miles, 2.1 miles, 1.7 miles, and 1 mile.

View attachment 55954


The radars were positioned on a road grader at the north end of the course.

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RESULTS


  • Table for each test is ranked ordered from first to last with range, delta from the leader and percentage of the leader.
  • Graph for each test is ranked ordered from first to last with range, delta from the leader and percentage of the leader.
  • All tables and graphs are color coded by detector.

Ka 34.7 Results

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Ka 34.7 Commentary

  • 34.7 was quite close between all the detectors, and was pretty much course limited.
  • The R3 once again took top honors, even if only by a bit.
  • The Redline was solidly in second place ahead of the Magnums.
  • The PK Magnum actually manged to squeak ahead of the WB Magnum this time, though not by much.

K-Band Results


View attachment 55958

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K-Band Commentary

  • R3 also took top honors on K-band, and was course limited.
  • Redline was a pretty close second, and pretty much course limited.
  • WB magnum took third, but had some trouble with consistency with two good runs and one not so good.
  • PK Magnum was fourth, and also had consistency problems, with one pretty good run, and two not so good runs.
  • I also again did three runs with the R3 in City mode. Again, I came away unimpressed with range in city mode. Half a mile to three quarters of a mile is ok for city driving (but nothing special). If you are running in City mode on the Hwy to cut down on BSMs, that kind of range is bordering on dangerous. You might miss I/O further ahead, or be lacking the needed sensitivity if conditions are tough. I’m very glad that Uniden is going to be giving us user selectable sensitivity in a future FW update, as that should alleviate this issue.

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FINAL THOUGHTS

I suppose folks are getting tired of seeing R3 test results at this point, and just want to get their R3 detectors in their OWN hands. I can’t say that I blame you. I really missed having the preproduction R3 in my hands while it was with hiddencam for his excellent test last week.

I will end this with my usual admonishment. This is just one test. Make sure to check all the tests, by all the testers, and on the variety of courses, to get to a complete picture of the R3 (if you haven’t ordered one already)!
Thanks for the test Brainstorm! Very telling how the city mode hampers things quite a bit! This is what we need to see!


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Re: TXCTG – Van Alstyne Ka 34.7 & K-Band Testing of R3, Redline and Magnums (05-21-20

Good job. Not enough delta there to really make a difference. 34.7 has always been Redlines strong suit anyway. Thanks for testing ;)
Yeah, straight-line and head-on, all these detectors can hold their own. Just some more evidence that the R3 isn't going to kill an M3 in every case.

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Thanks for the test Brainstorm! Very telling how the city mode hampers things quite a bit! This is what we need to see!
Yeah, like I said, I'm very glad that we're going to be able to dial things in in the future. Can't wait to do some testing once we get the ability to fine tune. It will be interesting to see how the range is affected by the various settings.
 
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Yeah, straight-line and head-on, all these detectors can hold their own.

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Yeah, like I said, I'm very glad that we're going to be able to dial things in in the future. Can't wait to do some testing once we get the ability to fine tune. It will be interesting to see how the range is affected by the various settings.
I was hoping to see a V1 in the mix. Always looking for a lil entertainment ;)
 

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Re: TXCTG – Van Alstyne Ka 34.7 & K-Band Testing of R3, Redline and Magnums (05-21-20

Thanks for testing. With the current firmware, I think I'll stick to HWY mode. K band is big threat here. I'm very happy that we'll be able to dial that in with advanced mode later on though.
 

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Good Job ! I want my R3 and i want it now :p
 

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Re: TXCTG – Van Alstyne Ka 34.7 & K-Band Testing of R3, Redline and Magnums (05-21-20

Great testing and thanks for the data!

Were you able to run Redline in Auto mode as well to match Uniden City mode?
This would be great too for some Urban Drivers that typically keep their Radars in Auto/City mode
 

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Great testing and thanks for the data!

Were you able to run Redline in Auto mode as well to match Uniden City mode?
This would be great too for some Urban Drivers that typically keep their Radars in Auto/City mode
Actually, I hadn't planned on doing that and I ran out of time. But perhaps that's another test for the future. ;)
 

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Another great test, thank you! At some point Id like to see an R1/3 on City mode tested on Ka band to see if(even though its supposed to be full sensitivity in that mode) theres any discrepancy.
 

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Another great test, thank you! At some point Id like to see an R1/3 on City mode tested on Ka band to see if(even though its supposed to be full sensitivity in that mode) theres any discrepancy.
While I haven't done any formal testing, I can tell you it doesn't seem to be affected to me. And Uniden said City mode has full Ka sensitivity. The original fw did actually lower Ka sensitivity in City mode.
 
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While I haven't done any formal testing, I can tell you it doesn't seem to be affected to me. And Uniden said City mode has full Ka sensitivity. The original fw did actually lower Ka sensitivity in City mode.
Great! Even though X and K are used sometimes in my state I plan to run city mode because I hardly ever see anything but Ka in my travels.
 

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Great! Even though X and K are used sometimes in my state I plan to run city mode because I hardly ever see anything but Ka in my travels.
Certainly your decision, but "hardly ever" might make me think about keeping K and X on (but I'm pretty risk adverse). Hopefully the next fw revision will allow separate adjustment of the sensitivity on all three bands. That will be really cool.
 
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Re: TXCTG – Van Alstyne Ka 34.7 & K-Band Testing of R3, Redline and Magnums (05-21-20

It looks like you can filter X and K in Highway Mode, so wouldn't that help quiet it? The tests seem to indicate this method doesn't cripple X and K sensitivity.
 

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It looks like you can filter X and K in Highway Mode, so wouldn't that help quiet it? The tests seem to indicate this method doesn't cripple X and K sensitivity.
There is a separate K filter, of course, but there is no X-band filter that I am aware of, other than turning on city mode, which also cuts down the K-band sensitivity. I've been driving with X-band on lately (which I've never really done in the past), and I'm surprised at how much X-band pollution is still out there.
 
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Re: TXCTG – Van Alstyne Ka 34.7 & K-Band Testing of R3, Redline and Magnums (05-21-20

Good Job ! I want my R3 and i want it now :p
You have an R3!;)
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Anyway you slice it, R3 has better range than RL and a usable K band and better features than RL. The king is dead, long live the new king! King Arthree! lol

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Good Job ! I want my R3 and i want it now :p
You have an R3!;)
 
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You have an R3!;)
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Anyway you slice it, R3 has better range than RL and a usable K band and better features than RL. The king is dead, long live the new king! King Arthree! lol

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You have an R3!;)
I'm waiting like everyone else for my Production R3.
 

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Re: TXCTG – Van Alstyne Ka 34.7 & K-Band Testing of R3, Redline and Magnums (05-21-20

The Redline did very well on the K band test, even with TSR on! But I can't wait until I get my R1, with its extreme range and superior BSM filtering!

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I am so glad that I see 34.7 around here in the dark alleys for the most part, since I run the redline. But I'm not sick of seeing the R3 tests brainstorm. Thing is sick.
 

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