Cobra iRadar

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  1. drtoddw

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    Does anyone use Cobra's iRadar app? Any reviews, experiences you'd care to share?
     
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    I tried it out in my area for a few weeks (CT) about 6 months ago and I can't say I saw anything other than speed camera's/speed signs marked, maybe one live police report about 50 miles west of me in the course of a few weeks, i'm guessing not many users around me. It didn't seem terribly stable on my HTC M8 and crashed often. There also seem to be some conflicts running it along side Waze (same issue with Escort Live) that would cause Waze to not work correctly. Waze works really well in my area so I just stuck with that, lots of users and pretty solid police reported ahead coverage.

    Depending on where you live and the number of others that use iRadar, it might be of value. Keep it running for a while and see if you see police reports being posted, if you do then maybe it would be a useful countermeasure.

    The only other thing that I found annoying is that in the default settings (for people that have an iRadar compatible detector) is set to post live alerts for all radar band detection including K and X, there are a lot of false's in these bands so I would think that would lead to posting false live police alerts, a knowledgeable user would turn off those bands for auto posting, but not everyone is knowledgeable.
     
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    Yeah, I did see that K-band shows up as a threat in areas that I know have an active K-band door sending out a signal. Plus, the Police Spotted threats do seem to stay an awful long time. In its favor, I see many more alerts than Escort Live, probably because of the number of people driving around with Cobra detectors. Also in it's favor are that the speed traps listed in my area seem to accurately denote areas in which I personally have seen police sitting more than once. I also like that I can select any place in the country and see the alerts. I can do the same with Escort Live, but need to use a GPS spoofing app in order to do so. I have a month to try it out but I do like having another source in addition to the waze that I run and the Escort Live. I have more than a few very cheap phones I have put into service running off my unlimited data, so I guess I really have nothing to lose. Thanks for the input.
     
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    I played with it a bit and was very unimpressed.

    Here's an in depth comparison I did with it, Waze, and Escort Live.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pld7odEx8tQ

    You can watch the whole thing if you're curious. It covers things like navigation, alert reporting, and all that.

    I don't remember all the details but I remember things like how Cobra would report K falses to the cloud and so you'd get your own K falses and other's K falses as well. Live is much better because it lets you lock things out instead. I don't know if Cobra has changed this since.

    Also instead of marking it as a false, you have to say you're "Not Sure" if it's a false which I find to be odd. I also find marking reports fails at times.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozzhp820W8M

    There's also weird things like delayed alerts where even after you're doing driving, you'll keep getting notifications to K falses.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIetjffz8Kk

    One thing that was interesting is that when iRadar connects in the background, it can automatically bring the app up into the foreground on the iPhone.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeqpbGH5gCw

    To be fair, this was nearly 2 years ago that I was testing things and Cobra very well may have improved things since (I'm assuming it's not like Escort Live in this regard).
     
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    As with most of these traffic/police trap crowd sourcing apps, it all depends on where you live, when/where you drive. Waze offers more than just police alerts so it draws a bigger crowd of users and therefore more reports. I'm a big fan of security in layers, so if iRadar/Escort live has even a few users in your area then it might be helpful, even if it it rarely is, it only takes one report that's not on Waze to save you a ticket.

    The one benefit iRadar/Escort live has over Waze is the auto police reports from radar and laser hits. Waze is of course based on users spotting the LEO and therefore is less useful at night or against really well hidden LEO's. Escort live and iRadar will post reports from radar and laser hits from users ahead even those well hidden or night time encounters.

    If all new detectors integrated easily with EL/iRadar then the user base would probably go up a bit and make it a more useful tool, right now only certain (usually higher end) detectors are compatible so the number of users is small. The downside to having cheaper detectors integrated and also providing reports would be the number of false reports due due to the poor filtering performance of the cheaper
     
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    Vortex, I watched your video and I think you covered the limitations pretty well. I guess what I didn't consider with iRadar is the Cobra false alerts on Ka Band. One thing that you didn't mention, and that may not have been available at the time you made the video, is that it appears that the user can decide what reports are sent to the cloud and thus to other users in the general settings. However, it appears to be a blanket decision that is either a yes or no, not something that can be decided per alert. Not great in places where K or X band could be a LEO or a door opener. So, it really depends on the user to know what's used in the area and if K/X band is used, you are also going to see false alerts even from users who knew that the alert was a door opener or BSM. And, unfortunately, seeing X band reports in my area tells me that the Cobra owner who enabled that doesn't know LEOs don't use X band around here.

    In regards to Escort Live, since it was mentioned, I will say that it fails to send my Redline's Laser alerts to the cloud. I usually end up sending a Cop Spotted manually. It's something I understand may be an Android only issue. I also wonder at times how many people actually use it in my area. I do see an alert every once in a while and have been able to automatically send a few Ka band alerts to the cloud. I just don't know if it helped anyone. Despite all of the errors that come with purely cloud generated information that one sees in Waze, I still think the sheer number of users does weigh strongly in keeping that one up in all driving situations. I haven't had any real "saves" that without which would have been a sure ticket without it, but it has confirmed the alert I'm getting is real numerous times.

    Thanks for the comparison, Vortex, and thanks to you also theBravo for your view. I think I may use it for the month and see if it actually produces a "save". If not, I'll probably just let my month subscription lapse.
     
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    Any updates to this tread for Members currently using it? I took a look at it on the Apple App Store and it has had a ton of bad One Star reviews in the last year and since the last update (though most of those tend to be about it no longer working properly when mated to a Cobra detector). So I am looking for both feedback from users mating ing with Cobra but more specifically if anybody finds it useful as a standalone counter measure since it has both Cobra and EL info now.

    @thebravo mentioned this App in a post about what might be EL lack of reporting.
     
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    I occasionally use it, mostly if I'm going on a road trip and need extra intel, I did have an issue where it would completely lock my phone if bluetooth was on, but that seems to have stopped happening. I don't have a cobra or compatible detector so just running it as a stand alone app... it's sorta ok, I like it better than EL, it's more stable and the service has never gone down the times I have used it. Now that it gets EL alerts thats makes it slightly more likely to have data. I do like that it only alerts you if you are on the same road as the report (unlike EL that alerts when you are within a certain distance of an alert, even if it's on a different road and not in your direction of travel) That said there is limited options if you don't have a detector connected so you can't tell it to not alert you to Kband alerts (which there are a bunch of) or only show alerts newer than say 30 minute (they roll off in 1 hour) For my daily drives it's not worth it, the few alerts I get are usually way old or not concerning. Waze is more up to date with reports, and anything Waze doesn't have the R1 or ALP will deal with. for the road trips in unfamiliar area's it can be helpful... for those trips I often run I radar, EL and Waze (separate phones) for max coverage, especially if in a rental car where I don't have ALP.
     
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