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lol Timmy :p

Either of them could answer even better, but from what I saw it is because as I mentioned in post #2, the Fringe Detections on ALL the units, even the Stinger, were unpredictable and random. You could run it 10 times and get no detection way out there before the bridge, then run it another two times and eek out a crazy detection both times. Keep in mind though, the Stinger was the most likely to get those crazy long range ones.
Another reason why it was so awesome to have so many detectors available and enough people to do so many runs/tests with them!!
Exactly. I think a lot of it had to do with variability through traffic. Maybe sometimes a detector was able to grab a distant fringe detection. Sometimes it wouldn't and it would pick it up closer to where the other detectors did.

We did several runs with some of the detectors and posted the best result when applicable. We can post the additional runs as well for completeness, but what you're seeing is the maximum detection achieved. That's not the same as the maximum capability of the detector, but the longest detection achieved in the test. They're not the same thing, but there should be some correlation. :)
 

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lol Timmy :p



Exactly. I think a lot of it had to do with variability through traffic. Maybe sometimes a detector was able to grab a distant fringe detection. Sometimes it wouldn't and it would pick it up closer to where the other detectors did.

We did several runs with some of the detectors and posted the best result when applicable. We can post the additional runs as well for completeness, but what you're seeing is the maximum detection achieved. That's not the same as the maximum capability of the detector, but the longest detection achieved in the test. They're not the same thing, but there should be some correlation. :)
How many runs did you make with the Max360? That one seems suspect, it should have been equal to the Max and GT-7. Thoughts?

-Mark
 

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lExactly. I think a lot of it had to do with variability through traffic. Maybe sometimes a detector was able to grab a distant fringe detection. Sometimes it wouldn't and it would pick it up closer to where the other detectors did.

We did several runs with some of the detectors and posted the best result when applicable. We can post the additional runs as well for completeness, but what you're seeing is the maximum detection achieved.
That would be great to see all the runs for every given detector. There are some head scratchers in there when one Stinger beats out the other by 20% or more so maybe that will help fill in the detection picture. Would love to hear your guy's take on these variances as well once you can sift through it all.
 

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How many runs did you make with the Max360? That one seems suspect, it should have been equal to the Max and GT-7. Thoughts?

-Mark
With the 360 we only did one. Keep in mind it was also unable to detect the MRCD while the Max2 and GT-7 could. So it does seem to be less sensitive than my M5's for whatever reason.

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That would be great to see all the runs for every given detector. There are some head scratchers in there when one Stinger beats out the other by 20% or more so maybe that will help fill in the detection picture. Would love to hear your guy's take on these variances as well once you can sift through it all.
Yeah, a lot of it is terrain limited or traffic limited. [MENTION=4479]Dukes[/MENTION] has the data from the additional runs.
 

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Timmys is owned by Burger King who is owned by a Brazilian firm. So you get a thong bikini and Whopper with that well known coffee.
 

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Timmys is owned by Burger King who is owned by a Brazilian firm. So you get a thong bikini and Whopper with that well known coffee.
Sounds like a good first trip to Canada; definitely not one that [MENTION=2404]Vortex[/MENTION] will forget any time soon

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My unit. It's hot, but those fringe detections are sporadic, and unpredictable especially with variations in traffic.
Also, there are only a couple chances for the fringe detections before you enter the curve/dip and then you're gonna have to wait for the signal to resume.

Nothing, including the Stinger held the signal from the fringe detections to source. We are talking blips here, losing the signal, then locking after the terrain changes past the halfway.

Also, we know the HD+ has been tuned to be hotter on 34.7.
Sounds like it might be a good place for a future "stew" test.
 

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Nice work gentlemen !
 

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Nice work.

The Radenso Pro SE continues to show its stuff in the windshield mount arena.
 

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I can't deny the superiority of the Stinger, BUT I can sure question that particular Stir-O??? How is it mounted??? Behind something?? Settings???

That O may need a tune up . It should have been closer to the STinger.

The HD+ performance doesn't shock me in the least. I have mine on the roof of my escape and it actually makes my Redline look bad at times on 34.7. It's a BEAST on 34.7.
 

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That O may need a tune up . It should have been closer to the STinger.

The HD+ performance doesn't shock me in the least. I have mine on the roof of my escape and it actually makes my Redline look bad at times on 34.7. It's a BEAST on 34.7.
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How do you route your cable when mounting it on the roof
 

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That O may need a tune up . It should have been closer to the STinger.

The HD+ performance doesn't shock me in the least. I have mine on the roof of my escape and it actually makes my Redline look bad at times on 34.7. It's a BEAST on 34.7.
I like that people keep saying that. However the O in question beat the other O head I had consistently, the Plus head I used to have, both the Redlines I owned and both my V1's. It's a VERY strong STIR O.

Look at the picture of where it is mounted. You can't compare it to mounting it on your roof, or how I had the HD+ mounted like a unicorn head. I'm not going to mount it like that on my Z and I think you understand why. Could I have mounted it way out like the + for testing? Sure, but that's not how 99% of people would use it.

The HD+ was mounted like that on my other car because it was conveniently available for testing.

I love the O. It is a monster. I wouldn't consider selling it for a VIP despite the testing. HOWEVER it is not, never has been, and will never be direct competition to the Stinger. Patch antenna technology >>>>>>>>> Horn technology.

FWIW, [MENTION=4479]Dukes[/MENTION] and I already are planning another long range remote test where we will test the VIP against the O again, as well as against my CI head when it's back from service. We will do two different courses, and different bands again.
That will give more data to confirm (or maybe refute) the results from this weekend.

Neither of us have an HD+ for the next test, so that will likely not be included, but it will hopefully satisfy people disappointed with the O this weekend.

If you honestly think my O is a slouch despite beating another O, two Redlines, two V1's and a plus all the time, I don't know what else I can do to squash that theory.

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Also, that O and the other one I ran it against to find the hotter unit were both serviced by Escort just over a year ago when I got them. Since then it's been on my summer car in a heated garage under a cover that never sees rain or cold and handled with white gloves when installed. Suffice it to say, I'm pretty confident it's not the unit.
 
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Yea we will run this course again, hopefully better weather will yield some different results :). We will test it against 34.7 and 35.5, would be nice to get a 33.8 gun as well... time to search...

We will also attempt to "stew" it next time and see if the STiR O can sniff it out. Remember these are real world, so traffic will obviously affect results.
 

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I like that people keep saying that. However the O in question beat the other O head I had consistently, the Plus head I used to have, both the Redlines I owned and both my V1's. It's a VERY strong STIR O.

Look at the picture of where it is mounted. You can't compare it to mounting it on your roof, or how I had the HD+ mounted like a unicorn head. I'm not going to mount it like that on my Z and I think you understand why. Could I have mounted it way out like the + for testing? Sure, but that's not how 99% of people would use it.

The HD+ was mounted like that on my other car because it was conveniently available for testing.

I love the O. It is a monster. I wouldn't consider selling it for a VIP despite the testing. HOWEVER it is not, never has been, and will never be direct competition to the Stinger. Patch antenna technology >>>>>>>>> Horn technology.

FWIW, @Dukes and I already are planning another long range remote test where we will test the VIP against the O again, as well as against my CI head when it's back from service. We will do two different courses, and different bands again.
That will give more data to confirm (or maybe refute) the results from this weekend.

Neither of us have an HD+ for the next test, so that will likely not be included, but it will hopefully satisfy people disappointed with the O this weekend.

If you honestly think my O is a slouch despite beating another O, two Redlines, two V1's and a plus all the time, I don't know what else I can do to squash that theory.
Thanks for clearing that up man. I didn't realize this O was that strong. It appears that the Stinger really is that far out ahead. I knew it would be ahead, but not by that much. They've really done some good work with it. I would like to have another STinger and do an official test with it. I had a bad experience the first time and posted some things on the forum and told a few people about it. I am not particularly lucky when it comes to getting new units. But I had some problems I believe with how I had things hooked up and may have been experiencing some drop in voltage etc.

I am not 100% certain about anything other than I believe I got some bad info the first time obviously due to a faulty install.

but I see that the results everyone are getting with their VIPs are just astounding and I would like to test once again.
 
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Inspiring work fellas!! Great to see new testing groups!! :thumbsup:
 

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Thanks for clearing that up man. I didn't realize this O was that strong. It appears that the Stinger really is that far out ahead. I knew it would be ahead, but not by that much. They've really done some good work with it. I would like to have another STinger and do an official test with it. I had a bad experience the first time and posted some things on the forum and told a few people about it. I am not particularly lucky when it comes to getting new units. But I had some problems I believe with how I had things hooked up and may have been experiencing some drop in voltage etc.

I am not 100% certain about anything other than I believe I got some bad info the first time obviously due to a faulty install.

but I see that the results everyone are getting with their VIPs are just astounding and I would like to test once again.
Where in TN or KY are you seeing low powered K band guns or stationary or mobile MRCD/T units??? Aren't they unicorns there??? And to quote on of our esteemed members: "A Save is a Save."
 

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