Stinger VIP Settings & Programming Options

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  1. Vortex

    Vortex Making Videos Administrator Advanced User Premium Member

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    So it'd be really handy to have a guide to the different settings and programming options available for the Stinger VIP to help explain what the different features mean and some of the detailed pros/cons. I started putting things together, but I'm gonna need some help in filling in things that I don't know, so let's do this in a collaborative way. :) I'll post what I have below and anyone who'd like to add in more information, please do so and I'll edit the OP so we can have one complete guide for everyone.

    This may need to be updated periodically too as new firmware updates are released.

    Anything with a * before it is something that I still need more info on. Anything in (parenthesis) is generally my notes for some questions I have.

    Radar

    X-Band: Turn X band on/off

    K-Band: Turn K band on/off

    *Ka-Band 33.8 GHz: Segment for 33.8 (how wide are the segments?)

    Ka-Band 34.1 GHz: Segment for 34.1

    Ka-Band 34.7 GHz: Segment for 34.7

    Ka-Band 35.5 GHz: Segment for 35.5

    *FalseList: GPS lockouts, allows the Stinger to learn and then mute known false alerts you've seen before. It takes a number of passes for falses to be automatically added to the FalseList. You can add them manually, but letting it happen automatically is recommended. (Details on why auto is better.)

    *K-band radars: Choose "all" in the US or Canada. Choose "low power only" if you're in Europe and encounter the MRCD and MRCT. (What about Aus/NZ?)

    *Dynamic sensitivity: Reduced sensitivity for X & K bands at lower speeds and higher sensitivity at higher speeds to help with false alerts around town. Ka band is unaffected. It's a linear progression where sensitivity increases with speed. (Speed thresholds and how much does it change the sensitivity?)

    *Scan mode: Regular, Quick Trigger, POP. Regular recommended for normal drivers. Quick trigger is good for enthusiasts who don't mind a few more false alerts. POP searches 33.8 more and allows the VIP to detect 67ms and 16ms POP for K and Ka bands. (Technical differences with delays and reactivity speeds?)

    In-car radar filter: If your car has a radar-based safety system like blind spot monitoring that makes your Stinger false alert, enable this so it can filter out the signals from your own car.

    Laser

    Laser Alerting:
    Enable laser detection to alert you when you get shot with laser.

    LaserShield: Enable laser jamming capability.

    Shield uptime: How long you want your laser jammers to jam for before automatically turning off. 3-4 sec max is recommended.

    Infinite shielding: Jam laser continuously until you manually kill your jammers. You can tap anywhere on the screen to kill your jammers.

    Side Lasers: Enable your side laser jammers if you're using them. Enable if you're using the ENRADD protection for PA or if you're in Europe and encounter the Autovelox. You will need the optional side lasers with your VIP.

    Test LaserShield: Allows your laser jammers to respond when you're parked which is helpful for testing your jammers. This feature stays active for 2 minutes only. This is a helpful feature to use with the Stinger laser tester (required to use this feature) which can both transmit laser to trigger your jammers and also give you audio feedback to let you know your jammers are firing and working properly.

    Fixed Locations

    Fixed Locations Alerting: Enable alerts for the SpotList database which includes the redlight cameras and speed cameras, as well as any additional user added locations which is helpful for manually marking VASCAR lines, for example.

    Specs

    Specs Alerting: Alerts you to SPECS systems which uses cameras to photograph your license plate and monitor when you enter and exit to calculate your average speed and mail you a ticket. These systems are use in Europe and Japan. Your VIP will monitor your average speed as you pass through these areas and let you know if you're going too fast and need to slow down.

    Mute radar during Specs: Mute radar alerts when you're driving through Specs.

    Alert Behavior

    *Sensitivity: This allows you to bias your Stinger VIP for performance or filtering. Extra quiet (-1) gives you more filtering and reduced performance. Normal (0) is the recommended option to balance between the two. Extra distance (+1) gives you maximum performance at the cost of some filtering and is popular among enthusiasts. This impacts X, K, & Ka bands. (Details on how much this impacts performance and filtering by?)

    Mileage Log

    Mileage Log: When you start your car, the VIP will prompt you what type of drive you're doing. Personal? Business? Commuting? Very handy for keeping track of mileage throughout the year.

    Auto trip type: Choose which trip type is selected by default

    Current trip type: What type of trip type you're doing now

    *Synchronise Mileage Log to Odometer:
    (?)

    *Next Pitstop number: (?)

    Safety Signals

    From radar based transmitters: Alert to radar-based transmitters that let you know about things like construction ahead, accidents ahead, or emergency vehicles in the area. This system never really took off so it's virtually non-existent in practice. It's designed to alert to SWS or safety warning system signals. There's no performance impact on K band with it enabled.

    *From laser based transmitters: (?)

    *Car-to-car Safety Signals: If you brake hard, your rear laser jammers will fire backwards to notify other Stinger VIP users behind you and trigger their jammers and let them know. (Is there a specific alert or is it just a generic laser alert?)

    PoliceCheck

    *PoliceCheck: Enable logging of your alerts so you can later download your alerts with the speed you were traveling, when you were shot, etc (what else?) for use down the road. Several customers have used this information to have their tickets dismissed since GPS is more accurate than radar/laser.

    Display

    Brightness: Adjust the brightness of the display.

    Auto brightness: Display can automatically brighten or dim as needed.

    *Stinger 'S' color: Change the color of the Stinger 'S' button. (Colors?)

    Stinger 'S' brightness: Adjust the brightness of the Stinger 'S' button.

    Sound

    Volume: Change the volume of all alerts, startup sound, etc.

    Mute level: Adjust the volume level of muted alerts. Set it to 0% to truly mute all muted alerts.

    Start-up sound: Choose if you want the Stinger startup sound which says "Welcome to Stinger."

    Voice: Choose if you want voice alerts to say things like "K band." When you're shot with laser it will visually display the make and model of the laser gun on screen, but it will not audibly tell you, however they will be adding audio alerts for individual laser guns too.

    Simple sound: After the initial alert where it announces the band, it goes into a simple audio alert with no rampup or change in tempo.

    Simple sound volume: This gives you the ability to adjust the volume of the simple sound beep independent of the main alert volume. It's recommended to run this pretty loud because the sound is so innocuous.

    Radio mute: Automatically mute your stereo when you get an alert. This feature requires you to wire the radio mute cable to your radio during installation. This feature will mute your radio even if the radar alert is being muted due by the FalseList, SpeedSense, or anything else.

    SpeedSense

    SpeedSense: This is low speed muting. You select the speed you want and the Stinger will mute any alerts below that speed.

    Autoswitch: Intelligently allows the Stinger to automatically change between your SpeedSense thresholds for city or highway driving so your automute thresholds will vary depending on how fast you are driving. (I don't really get how this works and running with this turned off and just choosing a single speed myself makes more sense to me.)

    Speed level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5: Automute threshold for low speed muting. When driving below this speed, all signals will be automatically muted. There are 5 different options. When you're driving, you can switch between speed thresholds on the fly simply by tapping the SpeedSense speed on your pilot screen.

    Simulate GPS: In the EU, there are very long sections of highway tunnels under and through mountains. This feature allows the Stinger to simulate speed and direction not only for SpeedSense (auto-muting) and Dynamic Sensitivity (speed based filtering), but also to alert to fixed camera locations (SpotList) commonly found inside them.

    System Settings

    Time: The Stinger will automatically synchronize its time to the atomic clock via GPS. This feature allows you to choose what time zone you're in.

    Language: English, Nederlands, Deutsch, Español, Français, Čeština, Slovenčina

    Side button functions: Change the functionality of the 5 hidden side buttons to do things like turn K band on/off, change the volume, toggle pilot screens, and so on.

    Show compass: Display a compass on the main pilot screen to see what direction you're traveling.

    Expert Mode: When enabled, it gives you the option to segment Ka-band or enable infinite laser shield time.

    Miles or kilometers: Change which units the Stinger operates in.

    Reset to factory defaults: Reset all the options back to factory defaults.

    Remove FalseList data: Remove all the known false alerts learned via the FalseList. This will delete all your GPS lockouts learned thus far.

    Switch Radar front/rear displaying: The Stinger VIP doesn't have front/rear plugs for your radar detector antennas. It automatically figures out which is front/rear as you drive. If it gets it wrong or if you unplug and replug the antennas into the wrong ports, choose this option to fix it in software so that things work properly.

    Switch Laser front/rear displaying: If the laser alerts are incorrectly indicating front and rear, change it here.

    Logging: Enable logging of radar alerts to later send back to Stinger's engineers for analysis. This is different than PoliceCheck which is designed for the users to be able to see their alerts after an encounter. Logging will log everything the Stinger sees, whether it alerts you to the signal or not, so that you can send those signals in and help Stinger debug any issues you're seeing. Level 2 logs more information than Level 1. In general it's recommended to leave this feature off unless you contact Stinger with an issue and they ask you to turn it on. When logging you'll need to keep your Stinger USB drive plugged into your Stinger and then later email the logs over to them. Because the USB drive can eventually get filled up, it's best to leave this option disabled and only use it when needed.

    Laser Logging: Log laser alerts as well for deeper analysis. Presently this feature isn't working, but everything is in place to add the functionality.
     
  2. mikedotd

    mikedotd Arrow enthusiast Advanced User Premium Member

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    Expert Mode: When enabled gives you the option to segment Ka-band.

    SpeedSense: When enabled will mute ALL alerts below the set threshold. When SpeedSense is set to on and Auto Switching is enabled every time you climb over a set speed level programmed into the other SpeedSense settings, your new SpeedSense minimum speed will be the next lowest speed below your present speed. If you have Auto Switching disabled then whatever threshold you set by clicking the SpeedSense button on the Pilot display will be used. [MENTION=10365]Stinger[/MENTION] can probably provide mode details, I'm copypasta'ing what he had explained to me.

    Start-up sound: When enabled says "Welcome to Stinger".
     
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  3. mirage

    mirage RALETC MEMBER Advanced User

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    Test LaserShield allows you to use a Stinger test box to determine if your heads are working and aligned properly. Lasts for 2 minutes only.

    Simple sounds gives you an initial alert with voice and then follows with a beep for the remaining duration. It's nice, but it does NOT ramp up.
    Simple sound volume give you the ability to adjust the volume of the simple sound beep independent of the main alert volume.
     
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  4. Vortex

    Vortex Making Videos Administrator Advanced User Premium Member

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    Thanks guys! :thumbsup: A bunch of stuff updated.

    ---------- Post added at 06:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:59 PM ----------

    Does it check your heads for alignment too or only if they're transmitting in the first place?
     
  5. mirage

    mirage RALETC MEMBER Advanced User

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    It provides audio feedback that is a good indicator as to whether the heads are aligned properly. If you take care in testing you can more accurately determine if each head is aligned properly. (I.e. Measure from the same distance, same height, etc, etc)
     
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  6. Vortex

    Vortex Making Videos Administrator Advanced User Premium Member

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    Bump. With updated firmware and options now available, would you guys mind running through this list again and seeing what needs to be added, changed, or updated in any way?
     
  7. mikedotd

    mikedotd Arrow enthusiast Advanced User Premium Member

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    Alert behavior settings now cover -2, -1, 0, +1, +2. I'm told this effects the amount of filtering that is applied to X, K, and Ka-band. Ka-band is filtered the least so this setting has the most effect on X and K-band.

    Under Radar settings is new Front / Rear Designation option to define the location of your radar antennas.
     
  8. whitewiskers

    whitewiskers Learning to Drive General User

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    Hi Vortex, I intentionally used the "Remove Falselist Data" key and was a bit surprised when it totally deleted not only any of my own places but removed the Stinger provided Falselisting from the "VERSIONS" listing of the system as well.(2017v4 etc.) No problem, I just downloaded the three 2017v4's and was all set again. If you find this to be correct, you may wish to amend the wording in your useful users' guide to something like; " Removes all Falselisting data from your system. You will need to reload the current Stinger provided Falselists back onto your system".
     
  9. Vortex

    Vortex Making Videos Administrator Advanced User Premium Member

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    Do you mean it cleared out the RLC database too?
     
  10. whitewiskers

    whitewiskers Learning to Drive General User

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    All I saw was that there was no "Falselist" header or the three listings under it (2017 v4's) in my Versions listing, which I had checked were there before I did the remove. After doing the remove, I turned off the system, waited a minute approx. Restarted the system and then reloaded the three listings. Then I checked the Versions again and the Falselist heading was back along with the three listings.
     
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    Dragons Breathing fire Beginner User

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    If only the Australian rep would allow Band segmentation.
     
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  13. whitewiskers

    whitewiskers Learning to Drive General User

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    Hi! I have a question for VORTEX, reference the use of "SpeedSense and Autoswitch".

    I am unable to get my system to work as I understand MIKETODT has described it above.
    I have selected my system's speed levels (35/50/70/90/105 KMH and when I decrease my speed, the system works as described, namely it silences any alerts that fall below the manually selected speed at the top of the screen, and these speed levels change downwards ( per selection list) as the vehicle's speed falls below the next lower number.
    However when I accelerate again, I must manually reselect/input a new speed level from the list every time when I reach it otherwise the speed figure remains at the lowest speed that was reached prior to any re-acceleration.
    Is this the way it is meant to work??????

    It would seem to me to work better, if one selected a set speed with "Autoswitch" off, and just drove. Then only change the speed level manually on the screen up or down if the type of road or its authorized speed level changes and you want your warning level/silence amended.

    I am a bit confused. What am I missing??
    Thanks for any help to this riddle
     
  14. Vortex

    Vortex Making Videos Administrator Advanced User Premium Member

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    I honestly have no idea how autoswitch works and it confuses me. It doesn't work they way I'd want it to work and I don't know what the thought process is. There's probably some others who get it and could explain it better, but I just do manual low speed muting and am very happy with setting the levels myself and them staying there. Fortunately Stinger makes it super easy to switch thresholds on the fly.
     
  15. dinkydi

    dinkydi Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

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    just set them all to any over us first desired speed, have mine set at 30 km/h on all, cant see a need for all those different settings
     
  16. whitewiskers

    whitewiskers Learning to Drive General User

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    Hi! Thank you both for your replies, even if between us we are not any the more satisfied! I suspect I should give Cliff a call and see what insight he may be able to offer us. Thanks again!

    --- Post updated ---

    Hi! I just finished a short chat with Cliff about "SpeedSense and AutoSwitch". He informs me that he does not use the AutoSwitch partion and is quite happy to set his one speed and live with it. He is not aware of exactly how the AutoSwitch should or should not work. Only the boys in Holland may know!
     
  17. Harold

    Harold PSL +5 Intermediate User

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    With my Stinger I only use the lower speedsense (set on 30 km/h).

    I don't think many people use the other speedsense.
     

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