Clearing up X band on the RDFGS

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  1. Vortex

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    The RDFGS is an awesome resource as you guys all know. There's also some incorrect and/or out of date information on there, specifically with respect to X band. X band sightings may get reported at some point (I'm not sure if those reports are confirmed LEO's or not), but I honestly don't believe X band is currently in use in 24/50 states. ;)

    What areas can you guys confirm FOR SURE that X band is still in use? ie. OH, NJ, some places in OR, etc.

    What do you guys suggest as ways to clean up stagnant old data and verifying that that information is no longer valid?
     
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    I had confirmed X Band in Augusta County VA last year in a new unmarked Charger.
     
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    I like the idea of adding some type of date protocol to all entries in the RDFGS. This would allow us to know the age of the data and possibly cull it at a later date for deletion/verification.
     
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    Cleaning that up would be awesome. I always here hoe minimal X band usage is but then when you see the GS it looks much more common.
     
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    I wouldn't mind expanding Ka to 33.8/34.7/35.5...

    Perhaps there would be a way to 'tag' contributors to their locations so they can verify and keep up-to-date with them?
     
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    Nice. I like that idea. Could do it like Waze which allows other users to confirm sighting so that data is current as verified by the latest user yet still is aggregated or like GasBuddy which does wholesale replacement of the prior user with the latest user entry.
     
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    X band live and well in NJ.Once MPH ounces that X band is no longer in use it should be kept up for now and not be removed no matter what state.
     
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    When I see X band I try to update RDFGS comments with the date I last have seen it.

    I have also lived in some towns for a few years and haven't seen any X band, however I did not remove it from the listing because you never know, especially being in NJ.
     
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    There are several issues on the NY page that should be addressed. Who should I contact to make these changes?
     
  10. Vortex

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    I disagree. Even if they announce they're going to stop producing X band guns, the existing guns will remain in service nonetheless. It's why we still have ATR's in service even though they haven't been produced in years.

    In the meantime, we have an RDFGS which says that X band is in use in half the states across the country and it's confusing people trying to figure out how to configure their detectors, diminishing the quality of a fantastic resource we have.

    I know it's hard to conclusively say whether or not the previous reports of X band were legit, whether those guns are no longer in service, if perhaps there's even areas where it is in use where it hasn't been marked, etc.. We can always spend time accessing public data to see if X band guns are still in use in different cities, but that info isn't available everywhere and even if we don't find it in one city, it may be in use in the next nearby city, by the highway patrol, or whatever else.

    I don't know exactly what the solution is to create the most accurate information available and help get rid of old and incorrect data, but hopefully we can come up with something. It could use some updating...
     
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    Ohio put X-band units in their new Chargers a few years ago, I chuckled then. Now OSP started getting new Explorers within the last couple of years...chuckling....sone have X-band too!
     
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    Can't you (we) FOIA or local municipalities and ask for all speed measuring devices currently in use in your area an build the RDFGS from that data?
     
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    How about we each take a state (preferable home state) and do some research? Nothing to in depth, just what state police use, sheriffs/county and any big cities worth mentioning. I'm willing to take on my state of MD, I think there are only 10 or 12 counties.
     
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    Yup, X band is alive and well in NJ. I see it in use by the NJSP on the section of Route 202 between the Flemington Circle and the Delaware River. My town has one old X band unit in an unmarked Crown Vic....it's dumb as a bag of hammers because the windows are not tinted and with all the LEO gear in the vehicle, it's easy to spot. Truth be told, I like X band.....it's "loud" and can be picked up a long way out, does not have DSP and X band falses are so rare these days that when I get an X alert, it's time to hit the breaks. K band, on the other hand, is a giant stink pickle straight out of Satan's anus.
     
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    If we broke down the states to county's and towns it would clarify the issue, but it will also make the RDFGS very complex. The problem is some county's/towns used X band while the majority of the state does not. For example CT shows X band used when that's just one small northern town out of 8 county's and 200 towns.

    The RDFGS would have hundreds of thousands of towns listed to go through. lol

    Listing by state then county may be the best bet. Still a ton but better than towns.
     
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    So I know this has been said, but Ohio most definitely uses X-band. I probably get hit with more I/O X-band than anything else.
     
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    Indiana has X-band still in use... by mostly localities... but I did see a state patrol running an old handheld maybe/about 2 years ago... so...
     
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    Is there anyway to list counties then have the option to click on country to open a sub category of towns with more detailed information about cars, tunes, equipment? This would make planning road trips easy by just checking countied one would travel through.
     
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    Yes, but that's a ton of data and there will be a lot of towns with nothing since we don't have members in every town or even county in the US. But i like the idea of Sub categories. I would also say that if X band is used in a town the county should be assumed as using it. So we may not need towns listed, just states and county's.
     
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    I think that's the only way you can do it and have it completed (per se) by 2020. The county info would be much easier to come by than each city, town, community. List it in the state, then pick off the counties over time.