Max360 Under The Hood

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---------- Post added at 08:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:37 PM ----------

Alright guys here you go little under hood action.

Sure ain't an M3 under there is it. :D


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So the LED small area is a mini horn?

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So the LED small area is a mini horn?

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Yea that's the rear horn I believe you're referring to in the back??


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For comparison, the pictures are courtesy from an old V1 post... not from me. uploadfromtaptalk1445475398411.jpeguploadfromtaptalk1445475420674.jpeguploadfromtaptalk1445475428963.jpeguploadfromtaptalk1445475436078.jpeg

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Nice! Well done.

The horn looks the same as the Max2 I have opened up right now.

The rear horn being in the center of the arrows would explain the bubble in the middle of the arrows. That bubble is the condenser lens then.

Can you open it up further? You'll need a Torx screwdriver (size T8) to proceed.

The Max2 also has a PCB sandwich like that, those though PCB's just pop right apart. The 360's is held together with some screws.

The horn itself should also simply be a few Torx screws and we can see the inside of the horn and the RF components.
 

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Hell yeah, you're the man Kasher! It looks cheapish in design compared to the V1, but I'm not a EE.

I was expecting a new a laser sensor with the front horn cover being so large. Nope. At this rate I'm going to not even see my unit because the order wont make it

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Nice! Well done.

The horn looks the same as the Max2 I have opened up right now.

The rear horn being in the center of the arrows would explain the bubble in the middle of the arrows. That bubble is the condenser lens then.

Can you open it up further? You'll need a Torx screwdriver (size T8) to proceed.

The Max2 also has a PCB sandwich like that, those though PCB's just pop right apart. The 360's is held together with some screws.

The horn itself should also simply be a few Torx screws and we can see the inside of the horn and the RF components.
Ok anything else you wanna see. I'm gonna close her back up.


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"M6" huh? I see the same SPARTAN class FPGA as the Max2, as well as the exact same Freescale Cortex M4 DSP (100MHz) as shown in @Vortex's teardown.

But you know what they say... https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Magic+Keyboard+Teardown/50995 if it's powerful enough for a keyboard, it's powerful enough for a radar detector.

(Wait what? There's no such saying?)


(Same LIDAR sensor design. Apparently 300 posts' worth of stomping and screaming about the Max/Max2's LIDAR inferiority to the Redline fell upon deaf ears)
 
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Thanks Kasher! @jdong is better at ID'ing components than I am (@Nine_C1 too) so they'll give us a better idea of what's going on. :)

I'm sitting here holding the Max2 horn up against the photo of your Max360 horn and they look the same... dimensions, angles, tapers, and so on. Towards the back of the horn it starts to get different to things like where the screw placement is, but the horn dimensions themselves look to be the same.
 

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Wow, thanks for these pictures!!
 

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Nice job Kasher, now we all know what cooking (not cooking) under the hood of the 360
 

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I read somewhere that you're supposed to say a nice thing, a mean thing, and then a nice thing. So the nice thing is: Given that the digital part of the detector looks identical (not just similar in spirit + upgraded parts, exactly identical), it does mean that Escort can maintain software updates for the Max, Max2, and Max360 in parallel without much work.
 

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Nice job ! No LNA ?
 

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I read somewhere that you're supposed to say a nice thing, a mean thing, and then a nice thing. So the nice thing is: Given that the digital part of the detector looks identical (not just similar in spirit + upgraded parts, exactly identical), it does mean that Escort can maintain software updates for the Max, Max2, and Max360 in parallel without much work.
That can be good but it can also be bad...is there hope for the Max/Max2, or is there no hope at all for the Max360?
 

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Actually, if it's not too late, can you do another photo of the inside of the horn assembly? Something a little straighter would be good. I'm gonna compare the inside of the Max2 and the Max360 side by side. :)

If not, that's cool. I can use that shot too.
 

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I read somewhere that you're supposed to say a nice thing, a mean thing, and then a nice thing. So the nice thing is: Given that the digital part of the detector looks identical (not just similar in spirit + upgraded parts, exactly identical), it does mean that Escort can maintain software updates for the Max, Max2, and Max360 in parallel without much work.
So from a quality standpoint what do you think? What do you think compared to the V1's older internals, major difference in potential? Obviously the Max has a neat FPGA.

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Looks way overly complicated for the performance it delivers.
 

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