Do not give any more info to cops than necessary..

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You're required to give cops necessary info/documents, but there is no need to mistakenly incriminate your self. The below videos give a good idea of what a LEO will try to do and what your rights are (5th amendment).

I have found being friendly & honest (within reason) without giving too much information provides the officer a level of comfort and just enough protection for your self during a stop. Also don't forget the power of asking the officer a question to avoid a difficult question directed at you, all people like to give advice or feel helpful, including cops. Don't be nervous, the officer is just doing his job.

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Note: Nothing I say is legal advice or exact recommendations that will necessarily help, just my opinion. Every scenario/cop is different and if your stupid about it nothing can save you. Be smart, be respectful and drive safe!

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What's the best way to decline giving any info without sounding like a douche?
 

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What's the best way to decline giving any info without sounding like a douche?
Depends on the question.

For example at our last meet: A local cop showed up, as soon as the officer came by i walked over and he asked what we were doing and I then explained we were just meeting up to hang out, a bunch of us from all over. He said since we were off the road he couldn't really do anything. Then when he pressed for more info i asked about a few officers i know in his department and mentioned i grew up there. Had some nice joking banter back and forth for a minute, then he shook my hand, exchanged names/info, and wished us well, then went on his way. He never came back.
 

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It seems like the cop was a reasonable guy. What about talking to a machine (i.e. motorcycle traffic cop)?
 

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It seems like the cop was a reasonable guy. What about talking to a machine (i.e. motorcycle traffic cop)?
My opinion with a motorcycle traffic cop is the likelihood of you getting screwed is high, therefore, I would just answer their questions with questions or responses that don't correctly correlate to their inquiries. With an older leo, IMO, it is sometimes better to be a little more honest and upfront.
 

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My opinion with a motorcycle traffic cop is the likelihood of you getting screwed is high, therefore, I would just answer their questions with questions or responses that don't correctly correlate to their inquiries. With an older leo, IMO, it is sometimes better to be a little more honest and upfront.
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It seems like the cop was a reasonable guy. What about talking to a machine (i.e. motorcycle traffic cop)?
Well, the idea is to come off nice and respecting yet not incriminate your self. Even a motorcycle traffic cop isn't just a machine, he has interests too. If you come across motorcycle traffic cops a lot learn about there bikes, maybe mention something about it when he pulls you over. There will always be just bad manipulative cops that just want to hand out tickets, the trick is to know what type of cop you are pulled over by in a very short period of time and communicate accordingly.

Imagine some guy cuts you off mildly when your driving then you see him at a local gas station, and as you go up to him to give him a peace of your mind he interupts and says "sorry about that before, but i noticed you have a V1 on your windshield. Man they are awesome, i wish i had one. How is it working for you?"
 

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Moto cops don't write warnings. You're getting a ticket regardless. Might as well be an ass about it. My friend got stopped by a moto cop in VA and he was just blowing spit bubbles the whole time the officer was talking to him. Hilarious. He knew he was getting a ticket anyways so you might as well mess with the cop.
 

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I think there is a lot of factors that go into it but from just talking to cops I have learned two things. There is a 90% chance he is or is not going to write you a ticket. Police are very decisive people. That 10% variable is for a holes and really good excuses.

The second is they hate lawyers. They are the joker to there Batman and if it was up to them they would be the judge and jury.
 

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Moto cops don't write warnings. You're getting a ticket regardless. Might as well be an ass about it. My friend got stopped by a moto cop in VA and he was just blowing spit bubbles the whole time the officer was talking to him. Hilarious. He knew he was getting a ticket anyways so you might as well mess with the cop.
I'd say that's a halftruth. I was a total ass hat to a moto in Palm Springs and got off without a ticket when I deserved one. He must have had a sense of humor for my ignorant teenage self back then. I was bumping my ride , he knocked on my window and I didn't roll it down nor turn the stereo down. I just motioned that I couldn't hear him. He yelled at me to turn the car off and get out of the vehicle. Then let me know the law really quick (50 feet outside the vehicle = California Vehicle Code, 40 feet outside the vehicle = Palm Springs ordinance). I argued that the law violates my first amendment rights. He let me off with a warning for some reason.
 

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Depends on the question.

For example at our last meet: A local cop showed up, as soon as the officer came by i walked over and he asked what we were doing and I then explained we were just meeting up to hang out, a bunch of us from all over. He said since we were off the road he couldn't really do anything. Then when he pressed for more info i asked about a few officers i know in his department and mentioned i grew up there. Had some nice joking banter back and forth for a minute, then he shook my hand, exchanged names/info, and wished us well, then went on his way. He never came back.
Just an update.

Same story and scenario. However the cars were not off the road so they requested to move them back. Did so, had some nice joking banter back and forth for a minute, then he shook our hands, exchanged names/info, then went on there way.
 

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You gave your names?
 

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You gave your names?
Generally when having a conversation with an individual you exchange names. It would be unusual not to. One providing confirmation is more than enough.
 

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I get it. The problem is that once someone starts talking, they find it easy to say more than they intended. And you can be certain that your name was run through NCIC before the officer even left.
 

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I get it. The problem is that once someone starts talking, they find it easy to say more than they intended. And you can be certain that your name was run through NCIC before the officer even left.
True, and that's part of the point of this thread. Hence the title: "Do not give any more info to cops than necessary.". ;)


And you always have the person with out the criminal record talk to the cops and provide info. :p
 

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We just had this happen at a jammer meet up here in Denver --- our test site happened to be near a correctional institution and the tower was wondering what the hell we were doing.. told them we were filming a video for youtube and left promptly :p
 

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Thanks for posting this video. Saw it some time back and it provides great advice on handling yourself.

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Thanks for posting this video. Saw it some time back and it provides great advice on handling yourself.
Just finished watching AGAIN! Great refresher course.
 

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Some of it is luck. If you get a good cop you're golden.

I've only gotten out of 3 tickets my whole life.
2002-was making illegal left-hand lane but traffic was backed up due to construction. Cop was nice and I told him it was an honest mistake. Chester Twp. PD.
2011-was doing 60 in a 40, but got out of it b/c I was on my way to a doctor's appointment. I saw the cop before he saw me and got over right away. He reluctantly came over b/c he was chatting w/another cop car in the driveway. Local cop, Russell Twp. PD.
2013-Made a non-full stop in Kirtland Hills and lazily rolled through. Trooper got me, but I was on my way to a township trustees meeting in Chardon. That's the only time a Trooper has let me off. He apparently knew Chardon trustees and the Road Sup and let me off.

Then my bad incidents in '16-17 (within 3 weeks of each other!).

Sometimes you just get them in bunches...
 

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Both of my speeding tickets were also coupled with parking tickets, within 2-3 weeks' time. Both parking tickets were tossed, but only one speeding ticket got tossed. After I lost the second speeding ticket case, I got my ALPs.
 

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