Good summer tires that are great in the rain.

Discussion in 'Car Discussion' started by CJR238, Apr 1, 2015.

  1. edconline

    edconline PSL++ Advanced User

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    Based on those test results, feedback from users and how much I loved the PSS’s on my last car, I still have to go with the PS4S’s for the new car.
    It’ll be double Michelin this time too, as the winter set will be Pilot Alpin PA4’s.


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  2. Mild

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    What's the temp limit on the PS4S again? 45 degrees?
     
  3. edconline

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    They still say not recommended to drive on them below that, yeah. And should be stored at 32 or above, never seeing below 20 to prevent cracking.
     
  4. GTO_04

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    IMHO they are fine at least down to 40 in the case of my PSS. I would expect the same from the 4S. [MENTION=7078]edconline[/MENTION] if you are going to run Michelin winter tires I would get the X-Ice Xi2 if they have them in your size. They will do better on snow and ice than the Alpins.

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  5. edconline

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    My wife runs the Xi3’s, great tires to be sure.
    However, the road clearing here is pretty good and I’d say 85% of the time, I’m driving on clear, mostly dry (just freezing cold) pavement in the winter. Most of the snow is on the side roads and in the subdivision where speeds are low.

    With that in mind, I want a winter tire that doesn’t get sloppy when I drive it hard on dry pavement. All the dedicated snow and ice tires handle like crap when it’s dry tarmac. However the performance winter ones give you probably 80% of the snow and ice grip of the x-ice, while still delivering amazing dry pavement performance.

    Plus, I need the speed rating of the PA4’s. Just because it’s winter, doesn’t mean I won’t be in the 200’s now and again


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  6. angrypenguin

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    Not necessarily a pure summer tire but the primacy mxm4 from Michelin has been great

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  7. GTO_04

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    I totally get that. There is going to be some compromise between dry handling and snow/ice traction when it comes to winter tires. Where I drive the snow removal is terrible, especially on the interstates. When the roads are really bad I just work from home or take a vacation day. I need to have great snow/ice traction for unplowed residential streets and parking lots.

    If you are describing the HX MXM4, they were the stock tires on my 2012 Charger R/T. Overall, not bad for a stock tire. Dry traction was very good and wet traction was OK................until I reached 17,000 miles when the wet traction just all of a sudden disappeared. The tires would spin very easily on wet pavement, even with a light application of the throttle. But they were way better in the wet than the factory stock F1 summer tires on my Scat Pack.

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  8. leesrt

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    I've always found a good general rule of thumb is if the tire has less then a 300 tread wear rating you shouldn't use it in areas that can go below or near freezing. In my area it can get down to freezing and a set of 300's are ok but they need time to warm up when it's that cold.
     
  9. edconline

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    I have also been entertaining getting two sets of rims/tires for winter. The PA4's for the late fall/early spring when there is a mix of clear dry roads and some snowfalls here and there (as I won't be able to use the PS4S at that time) as well as the beginning and end of winter when its warmer out. Then getting the Nokian Hakka 9 Studded for the dead of winter. (Studded tires are legal here).

    Then I won't have a portion of the year where there is any compromise. And it takes what, 30 mins to swap a set of tires over if that? No biggie.
     
  10. angrypenguin

    angrypenguin Eat Lead Mothertrucker!! Beginner User

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    No, referring to

    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Primacy+MXM4
     
  11. EightyFiveHundred

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    IMG_5412.JPG IMG_5413.JPG My front PS4S came in today!

    275/35/19 woo hoo!
     
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  12. Deacon

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    Very nice! When do you get them on the car?
     
  13. EightyFiveHundred

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    Thanks, just mounted them now!

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  14. Deacon

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    I'm guessing they'll never feel better than they will in a couple hundred miles. Enjoy! :D
     
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  15. GTO_04

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    The PIlot 4S are awesome! I am VERY happy with mine!

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  16. Up All Night

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    What about Cooper RS3-G1's?
    Reviews look good and buy before Oct 31 and get $100 rebate.



    http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-...-testing-cooper-tires-zeon-rs3-g1-all-season/

    For such a great handling and grippy tire we were honestly shocked to learn this tire has a 500 treadwear (we’re more used to seeing 200-300 for performance tires). The AA for traction is obvious feeling how well these tires stick in corners.
     
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  17. gapi

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    I enjoy my Michelin Premier A/S on my charger R/T. Very grippy in the rain, very. Not a competition tire but do handle well.
     
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  18. Dragons

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    Yokohama advan v105.


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